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The ScreamQueenz Podiverse Network is home to an ever-growing family of unique horror podcasts following in the tradition of "ScreamQueenz-The Podcast Where Horror Gets Gay" (2010-2025).

The following shows are released every First Friday in rotation:
IT CAME FROM THE '70s - A look at made-for-tv movies from the Grooviest Decade.
BEHIND THE SCREAMZ - Conversations with independent horror filmmakers.
SCREAMQUEENZ RESURRECTION - Rebroadcasts of Vintage ScreamQueenz episodes.

Releasing every Third Friday:
DAMN YOU, UNCLE LEWIS - A "Friday the 13th: The Series" Retrospective.
#08 - "Vanity's Mirror"
ScreamQueenz Podiverse
#08 - "Vanity's Mirror"

Note: We skipped ahead a few shows for this episode, because of REASONS. We'll return to the regular schedule and cover "Shadow Boxer" next month.

The "We Hate Uncle Lewis Club" is back in session for another deep dive into FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES as we discuss Season One Episode Seven: "Vanity's Mirror".

In Vanity's Mirror, a compact that carries a deadly love curse falls into the hands of a tormented high school girl who uses it to lure her bullies to their grisly deaths.

This is the episode that really put Friday the 13th on the map, because of its tight script, vicious kills, and a gleefully demented villain...plus one ostentatious fez!

You can expect:

  • Compacter Smooshes!
  • Table Saw Headaches!
  • Baby Zach Ward!
  • Dirty Feet!
  • Lettuce Sandwiches!
  • Colonial Williamsburg Hair!
  • Insight, wisdom and sass talk from Patrick, Maya & Trae.

Sadly, all Friday the 13th: The Series episodes have been removed from every platform I searched, so "Vanity's Mirror" is not currently available to stream.

Please consider picking up the DVD box set with the black-and-white skull cover. You can find them preowned on eBay for about $25.

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Chapters

00:00 - Untitled

00:08 - Untitled

00:09 - Introduction to the Episode

04:39 - Transition to Vanity's Mirror

11:30 - The Evolution of Character Dynamics

16:42 - The Anti Florist Agenda

25:24 - The Cursed Compact and Its Recovery

31:31 - Helen's High School Struggles

40:01 - The Dark Side of Teenage Power Dynamics

45:19 - The High School Undercover Operation

52:10 - The Confrontation of Feelings and Secrets

58:32 - The Prom Preparations

01:09:53 - The Prom Night Escalation

01:14:40 - The Climactic Dance on the Roof

01:19:38 - The Law of Averages and Its Consequences

01:29:03 - Transitioning to New Themes

Transcript
Patrick

Hey, everybody, before we start the show, there's just a couple of things I want to let you know about. First of all, no, you're not losing your mind. We've gone out of order. It's just a one time thing.The episode that we're supposed to be doing is Shadow Boxer, if we were going chronologically. But for this one instance, I made the executive decision to jump ahead to Vanity's Mirror. There was a lot going on at the time.I was particularly down and I find Shadow Boxer to be an incredibly dark episode. I mean, they're all dark, but darker than usual episode. And I didn't feel up to talking about it. It was my birthday.I abused the privilege and said, we're going out of order. It's my show, damn it. So we did Vanity's Mirror instead. I thought about putting the episodes back in order the way they're supposed to be.But the energy changes in this episode. This episode is when Maya really fell in love with the show for the first time and it changes things.So I didn't want to interrupt that kind of a flow.The other thing I want to let you know about is that if you've been watching Friday the 13th the series episodes on YouTube, most of them have been pulled. Most of them have been pulled from the Internet in general.I can't find them on dailymotion, I can't find them on Vimeo, I can't find them on YouTube. They're slowly disappearing. I'm going to do my best to find links for you to watch them, but at this point there's not much I can do.However, there is a perfectly good box set out there that's available relatively cheaply. When I checked last week, they were on sale at Best Buy, much cheaper than they were at Amazon.So I will put links down there in the show notes if you want to buy the box set of the show because it's worth it. How dare they try to deprive you of your delicious Canadian crazy TV show. Okay, I'm Bablin, so I'm gonna stop talking and start the show. Oh, hello.Come in, come in, come in. Do come in out of the terrible weather. Oh, welcome, welcome to my very curious curio shop.Although I hate to inform you the shop is closed for tonight because there's a. Well, it's a rather special evening. It's our monthly meeting of sorts. So unless you're here for the meeting, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.The nature of the meeting, you ask Let me put it to you this way. Sometimes Uncle Louis does dreadful things. Welcome to Damn you, Uncle Lewis, the Friday the 13th series retrospective podcast.So welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to my very curious curio shop.

Maya

Yay.

Patrick

Yay. It's so wonderful that you're attending the meeting and helping support this very important cause and. And. And. And. And helping our way through our.I don't know. Breath. I don't know what? I don't know. Whatever.Let's just talk shit about Uncle Lewis, for Christ's sake. Here to provide much needed snark and to make sure none of y' all have shoplifted nothing. My two favorite shopkeeps, Trae Dea, and Maya Murphy.

Maya

Hi. I ain't no snitch, though. Ain't no snitch. You want to steal something cursed, it's yours now. Have fun.

Patrick

I just want a cut.

Maya

Hey.

Patrick

Hey. Nothing. Nothing. Cursed in my curio. Curio shop. Thank you.

Maya

Oh, oh, of course, of course.

Trae

They got pills for that.

Patrick

Thank you. Yes.

Trae

Not cursed anymore.

Patrick

Okay, not cursed yet. I might do just a bit nice at the cash register. All right, all right.

Ryan

Here you.

Patrick

Hear, hear you. This meeting up that we. Ha. Uncle Lewis club is called to order. Order, order, order, order, order. What we're here to talk about, all right?Not just talk about each other. Talk about this.We are here to talk about the awful things that Uncle Lewis keeps putting us through week after week after week, even though he's dead. And this week, we're talking about the episode Shadow Boxer.

Trae

No.

Patrick

Oh, yes, we are.

Trae

Oh. Oh, okay.

Patrick

But I. But, but, but, but I like butts. Do you like big butts? Because I can't lie.

Maya

Oh, I'm full of lies. I like many shapes of butts.

Trae

Everyone's got a but. Let's talk about your big butt.

Maya

Let's talk about your big butt.

Patrick

That's a different podcast. Uncle Lewis got a great big butt. No, I. I already contacted Maya and Trae earlier in the week.I know we're supposed to be talking about Shadow Boxer, but I. I decided to use the one cursed object left in the store.

Maya

Ah,.

Patrick

The curse podcaster mic, which only works on their birthday, where you can change the episode that you're going to talk about.So we're actually going to be talking about Vanity's Mirror, because that's one of my favorite episodes because I don't like Shadow Boxer and I didn't want to talk about shitty shit on my birthday.

Trae

This was a great episode.

Maya

Yes, it was.

Patrick

And the curse. The Downside of the curse was that I had to take Smoochie to the vet, and I lost seven of my phalanges in the process.

Trae

Smoochie. But crazy.

Patrick

She don't like. She don't like the crate, man. She do not like the crate. And she a big girl. She can just take me out.

Maya

Speaking of big butts. Oh, I have an unrelated cat thought for you later. If you remind me, all cats are.

Patrick

All cat thoughts are related on any. Any Scream Queen's production.

Maya

No, I had a friend who, like, grinds her own cat food and apparently reducing the amount of grain in her cat who had thyro problems diet helped his weight.

Trae

That sounds like work.

Maya

That sounds. That sounds hard.

Patrick

It also says very medieval. Just like.

Maya

Yeah, I know. Go vegetarian. Going full Sweeney Todd on their cat food. In the.

Patrick

What are we talking about? We're talking about the movie the. The episode Vanity's Mirror, because that is one of my favorites. I had to say, watching this one this time, I was like, they really tightened up a lot in the episode that we did.

Trae

Oh, they did.

Patrick

I mean, the script is tight. The characters are tight. There's no real side floof. And one of the. One of the assets of it is that our heroes are barely in it.

Maya

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

Trae

And we got Prime Robey in this one.

Patrick

Yeah. Trae's right foot agrees. He's like, I didn't press.

Maya

Oh, my. I keep forgetting to take this call with my feet in the background, and I'm gonna. One of these days,.

Patrick

It just kind of appeared. I am. I am recording this video. That part's staying in whatever I edited down to that's. So here's what's going on behind the scenes.Vanity's Mirror was directed by our good friend William Fruet. William Fruet, the most prolific director of Friday the 13th, the series.He directed 10 episodes, including the pilot show, the Inheritance, and Scarecrow this season. You would also know him for the movies Funeral Home and Killer Party. We have two screenwriters for Vanity's Mirror, Ray Sallows and Ira Levant.Ray Sallows did five episodes of Friday the 13th, the series, including Badge of Honor and Bottle of Dreams. Ira Levitt, this was the only thing you wrote, so. Hey, thanks, Ira. You wrote a great show.

Maya

Great. So the first note I have is how many episodes start with buying flowers?

Patrick

Well, that's what I was. Okay, we're not there yet, but I was gonna. I have to write a letter to Frank Mancuso Jr. And, like, what is going on with Your anti. Florist tirades.You know, this anti. This whole, like, agenda that you have.

Maya

Sketchy, like, flower salesman of the night. Like, it's always dark out with a nice.

Trae

With a nice machine printed sign.

Maya

Yeah. With like a gorgeous, like, cut vinyl sign. Nice. Nice little stand.

Trae

But she could afford that. But she couldn't afford chapstick. There's a lot of chapstick.

Patrick

There's a lot going on in this episode. There's a lot going on in the episode. So. Yeah. Okay, so before we go any further, why did we just. Who. Who did.Do you remember who did the summary last time?

Trae

I think Maya did.

Maya

Yeah, I totally.

Patrick

Sure. Yeah. Okay, so trade. Just foot. My left foot. My right. My other foot. Yes.

Trae

Okay. It's about this time. The.It's a compact that when you flash the sun from it in someone's eyes, they fall in love with you, and it falls to the hands of a really, really, really cunty, ugly high school. Uses Helen, who is actually a pretty good villain, but she's.

Maya

Yeah, she was surprisingly strong.

Trae

Yeah, there was a lot going on. It was actually kind of an emote emotion.

Patrick

Yeah. This one had layers and. And characters you cared about.

Maya

Yeah, layers. And we went on a journey and there was an arc and, like, there was a lesson at the end, and it wasn't the lesson I expected, and it was great.

Patrick

And there was no incest.

Trae

Whoa.

Maya

Yeah, that's gonna come back, though. Like, don't get my hopes up.

Patrick

What we lost in the process was Jack-cents and Jacksplaining. Yeah.

Maya

Yeah, that was really great.

Patrick

Yeah. And you actually got to see the cuddly side of Jack this episode.

Maya

Yeah. And that was great, too.

Patrick

A little bit way. A little bit towards the end, I was like, ah, there he is. That's the guy I like. That guy had a crush on when I was in high school. I did.I had a crush on Jack. Okay. There I said, I just.

Maya

I just learned something about you. That's great.

Patrick

No, he's nice. He's like. I just remembered him as this really nice character in these first episodes. I'm like, you're really kind of a pill.

Maya

Oh, no.Watching the. The beginning of this series, he reminds me of every icky man who goes, I can hit on you at the bar because you know I'm joking.And I'm like, it's not cool. You can't do that.

Patrick

But you're like. You're gay.

Maya

No, the number. The number of gay men who think it's okay. To grope me. Oh, my God. I will strangle all of them.

Patrick

No, that ain't right. That ain't right. That ain't right. That goes both ways.

Maya

Like me.

Trae

Yes.

Patrick

Yes. Well done, girl. Bring it around. Yes.

Maya

It's like the scarecrow says, some people go both ways.

Patrick

And he's pointing at Maya.

Maya

Some people do go both ways. Yeah. Both fingers.

Patrick

Okay. Yeah. This episode's a hoot. I really like this episode a lot. I think, like I said, the journeys and the layers. And the cast is great.

Trae

Yeah, they are. Very good cast.

Patrick

The girl who plays Helen is fantastic.

Maya

She's great.

Patrick

And she's actually gone on to. Ingrid Veninger. She's gone on to have quite a career. She's actor, producer, writer. She actually won a Genie Award.

Maya

Wow.

Patrick

Canadian Academy Award for a documentary. She does documentary stuff all the time. And I think she's fantastic. Little career.

Trae

I looked her up and she's still doing some stuff.

Patrick

Yeah, they all are, except for the sister. Okay. Who I also thought was great.

Maya

Yeah.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

One of the things I liked about this episode is that. Yes. You've got. First of all. First of all, it's got a Carrie feel to it, because it's.

Ryan

Oh.

Maya

It's like, oh, yeah, Carrie. We got a little bit of Heather's also.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

But. But what I thought was interesting was that she's not anyone you feel sorry for.

Trae

No.

Patrick

She's actually a nasty little person.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

And there are people in her life who care about her and she does not see it.

Maya

Yeah. They're trying. And she's like, everyone deserves to die.

Patrick

And this whole thing is like. It's a revenge plot against her sister, who is, like, the one person who's always on her side.

Maya

Oh, my God. And she's trying. She doesn't say it so hard.

Trae

You know, we never sure if she was just nasty to begin with or if a compact was influencing her, but she was terrible.

Maya

She was really bad.

Trae

She's so bitter.

Patrick

Well, you know, the. The item. The items find the people, not the other way around. So. Yeah. So I think she was just nasty already. And it just solidified it.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

And also. Also, Zach Ward is in this episode.

Trae

I know. He was so good. I got such a crush on him. He's such a cute.

Patrick

Oh, God. You know what? It's not right with the universe that the kid who allegedly had green teeth and yellow eyes grew up that hot.

Trae

Exactly.

Patrick

Scott.

Maya

Scott.

Patrick

Scott Farkas from Christmas Story. Yeah. The bully from Christmas Story.

Trae

Yeah. Yeah.

Maya

That's who that was. I was staring at him going, I know you. I know you. I know you.

Patrick

Well, I was supposed to know him. He does tons of sci fi work. He still works now.

Trae

He works all the time.

Patrick

Zack Ward, the hunky Zack Ward. Hunky genre, heavy genre. Working. Zach Ward. Zach Ward is most famous for playing Scott Farkas, the villain in A Christmas Story.As you mentioned earlier, this is his only Friday the 13th series.

Maya

He's.

Patrick

He was in Freddy versus Jason. He's done so much stuff, like, so many credits I can't even begin to list, but he's still working right now.And most recently, he just put out a movie called Based on the original Night of the Living Dead, and he played Doc Hawk in Marvel Adventures.

Maya

So secret About Me, I don't learn an actor's name unless I, like, deliberately go to their IMDb page and, like, say their name out loud several times. Otherwise, they just, like, come and go in my brain. It doesn't mean their work isn't good. They aren't significant.It just means I didn't put in, like, half an hour to learning their name arbitrarily.

Patrick

Okay, so you didn't see. You didn't see him half naked in. Actually fully naked in Freddy versus Jason?

Trae

I was gonna say who dat?

Patrick

Who, dad?

Trae

Who dad? He's good.

Maya

I don't think I saw all of Freddy versus Jason. I think I caught some of it close to when it came out.

Patrick

It was. It was cute. A while ago, he got married and he announced it on Twitter, and I was like, zach, how could you?I was just about to propose, and he wrote back. He's like, my heart could only wait so long.

Trae

Patrick, that's so good.

Maya

Wow. It's nice to be appreciated.

Patrick

Yeah, it is. It is, it is. Thank you for. Thank you for responding to my absolutely creepy tweet. But the whole thing. This.This whole thing is set up like, we'll get into the plot in a minute, but because we have this opening scene with the flower person, the flower woman that we mentioned earlier. And the scene's going one way, but as soon as we cut to Curious Goods, the whole episode came to an absolute stop.Because I can't talk about this episode without talking about Micki's outfit.

Maya

Oh, my gosh, Micki's outfit.

Patrick

So she started coming up. She started coming down the stairs, and I was like, where are we? Does she have some sort of Greek Orthodox, Turkish genie organ grinder?What's happening?

Maya

So she has an embroidered hat.

Patrick

Is she maybe at the Temple of.

Maya

Doom with a long Beaded tassel that makes it like past her cheekbones. She has a bolero with those, you know, Big pronounced 80s sleeves. Then she also has an underbust corset on corset.

Patrick

But it's attached to the jacket.

Maya

I watched it again.

Patrick

I'm like, that's a one piece. What an impossible item of clothing to get into. And I don't know who designed this shit. I wrote that.

Maya

It looks so good. It looks so good that I couldn't be mad.

Trae

No, no, you couldn't. She pulled it off.

Patrick

No, it looks so good. But it doesn't belong in the scene. Like kind of say, like probably.I realize that, but I'm going like, you just showed up for work on a regular day wearing that.

Trae

It's.

Patrick

It's nobody. Birdie walked into the store. Okay. It always comes back to Birdie. Birdie walked into the store and that new dress.And everybody was like, ew, nice dress, Birdie. And nobody's mentioned in this outfit. Come on. Now.

Maya

My only complaint about the outfit is in order to fit it into the fez. Her hair is straigh. So we lose all the glorious ruby volume in the hair.

Patrick

But she's got that finger wave in the front. Yeah, that's gorgeous. Yeah, it was long ponytail and it has dyed like extra red. This episode died extra red.

Maya

But when we finally see her without the hat at the end of the episode, you could see where she was like growing out her bang. So there's like this giant mullet disparity in length in the back.

Trae

Well, I got notes on what she's wearing later on the episode.

Maya

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Patrick

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.Because even like what I thought was great, like later on in the episode when she's supposed to be like undercover, like black sneaking around like burglar outfit, I'm going, you're even more conspicuous now for some reason and I don't know why.

Maya

Oh, but that's like when I try to dress normal and pass for normal people. Go, you're. I see you wearing Banana Republic. But like something is up with that.

Patrick

At a cellular level. Your body's just rejecting it.

Maya

Like an organ.

Patrick

Okay. Surprisingly enough, this is not my fashion choice.

Maya

Oh, okay.

Patrick

I think, I think it's gorgeous. We'll come back to it.

Trae

For both Micki and Ryan, but we'll get to it.

Patrick

Oh, I didn't even. Ryan didn't even register much because every time he was on camera, that outfit was on camera. And I just kept analyzing.I'm going, yep, the corset's attached. Is that. Does she have extensions in or is that all really her hair? I don't. I was. Who's gay? Who's gay? Who's gay?

Maya

Everyone's gay.

Trae

There's one scene that was the wine. We'll get to later, but.

Patrick

Oh, God, maybe.So, okay, we go back to the opening of the episode and once again we have this anti florist agenda that they're pushing because there's a night, there's a. There's a woman selling flowers in the street. What happens?

Maya

Selling flowers?

Patrick

Sylvia, the poor little flower lady out in the street in the cold.

Maya

So some business guy comes to buy flowers and she's like, do I look like a woman to you?

Sylvia

You look real nice tonight, sir.

Mr. Manninger

Thank you.

Sylvia

Your change, sir. Your hand is so warm. Mr. Manninger. You come here every day, Buy your flower. But do you see me?

Mr. Manninger

I really have to get going. I'm sorry.

Sylvia

Do you look at me?

Sylvia

Do you think she's a woman?

Mr. Manninger

Keep the change.

Sylvia

full of love and needs.

Mr. Manninger

This is ridiculous.

Maya

What do you think about me? I see you every night. What do you think about me? And it's like so weird.And being a queer from my generation, I wrote hey, artist got a dollar because rent is turned into my brain and it's never coming out. The homeless lady in Rent has a completely legitimate point and this woman does not.

Trae

Nope.

Patrick

No, no.

Maya

But like you said, the cursed items seek out the people. So I guess she was just a flower lady.

Patrick

Yeah. And we find out later, find out later that like, like, apparently she was very popular, had an active social life and she had lots of men.

Maya

Okay, okay. Yeah. But that they just said she active social life because they couldn't call her a slut in Canadian television.

Trae

And she looks like chapped lips and nasty teeth.

Maya

Yeah, she has like the teeth brown gel in like. She looks awful.

Patrick

And actually she had a house.

Trae

I thought she was homeless because she looked.

Maya

Oh, yeah, we do go to her apartment. I guess she's not homeless. I guess she's just like, icky.

Trae

Yeah, she did gross.

Patrick

She's gross. Which also is a running theme for apparently the people with the combat.

Trae

Yep.

Patrick

As we find out later, Helen is not just like nerdy and picked on. She gross. We'll come back to that.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

Because I was like.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

So what happens is she. The guy rejects her. She flashes the compact at him, he looks into it and immediately falls in love with her.

Sylvia

You think you're too good for me? You turn around and look at me, mister.

Mr. Manninger

You Are. You're truly beautiful.

Mr. Manninger

I don't know why I've never noticed you before.

Mr. Manninger

I mean, I've noticed you before, but.

Mr. Manninger

I used to think.

Mr. Manninger

Forgive me. I used to think you were ugly. I never. I never really saw you.

Sylvia

Let's go somewhere that's private

Patrick

I thought was interesting. This whole episode is a flip. Like a better written version of Cupid's quiver.

Maya

Yeah, yeah, so much better.

Trae

But there didn't seem to be any kind of trade off. Like you make someone fall in love with you and then you have to kill them.

Patrick

I don't think any of them were. Either Helen or Sylvia were using the mirror for love. It was for revenge.

Trae

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah.

Patrick

I'm gonna make you beg. I'm gonna make you beg for it.

Maya

Then I'm gonna kill you with this ladder in an alley.

Jack

You're the kind of girl I dreamed of spending my life with.

Ryan

But you didn't have no time for me before you insulted me.

Jack

You ignored me, but I was blind before.

Patrick

Now I can see. Now I love you.

Ryan

But will you love me till the day you die?

Jack

Until the day I die.

Ryan

I'm so glad to hear you. You say that.

Maya

No, no, no, no.

Ryan

You look so fine in that light.

Maya

The same alley we shoot in every episode.

Patrick

Yeah. Jack's like, could you please get the lights out of the alley, please? Some of us are trying to have intercourse.

Trae

So you go to the alley either to get killed or the.

Maya

Or to make jokes about birds.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Yep.

Patrick

Free as a bird. But no turkey.

Maya

I can't.

Trae

I can't.

Patrick

Oh, yeah.And she. And she. Yeah.So she leads this guy in the alley and the key, key phrase, just like in Cupid's quiver, it seemed to be like he had to kill people as soon as they said. Like he had to kill the women.

Maya

As soon as the woman's like, I'd love you to the last day of my life. Or do you love me to death?

Patrick

I love you till the day I love you the day I die.

Maya

They all. Yeah, that seemed to be part of the curse. They had to say that out loud.

Patrick

Well, it's great she's luring him into this house. She's like, let's go somewhere more private behind these garbage cans.

Trae

He's just smitten.

Patrick

And he's just smitten. He's just gushing about it like, I thought he was so ugly, but I can just see them spending the rest of it.And meanwhile, she's just like, could you just take three steps to the Left. Okay, there's the mark. There's an X on the ground.

Maya

Like Wiley Coyote, a big X.

Patrick

Find your mark.

Maya

Find your mark.

Trae

And you're slowly hitting the lever to do the. The ladder.

Patrick

Slowly she drops the fire escape on his head and crushes him.

Maya

Yep, Yep.

Patrick

It was cool, but it was, it was okay. It was very. It was very. Final Destination two. Two, two, two, two.

Trae

Yeah, yeah.

Patrick

Final Destination two. That happened. I'm like, huh? Somebody was watching that in Hollywood. But. But she's so happy. She's so happy. She's unbelievable. What happens?

Trae

She runs out and she gets hit by a car and killed. I laughed so hard.

Ryan

Gotta go now.

Trae

It just happened so quickly.

Patrick

Sylvia, look both ways. Sylvia, come on now.

Trae

And it was just so quick that I just. I laughed because it was so funny.

Patrick

Well, I just liked it too, because it's you. Because normally the way these things go, the villain that you're meeting at the beginning is the villain you're gonna follow all the way through.When we get. We now all of a sudden, you just pulled the rug out from under.

Maya

No, we know our cursed item. Neat.

Trae

And she's so happy, she's like scampering away, just hahahaha.

Patrick

And you see a car, her face.

Trae

Just changes and go, ah.

Patrick

And the little extra bear driving the.

Maya

Car was like, yeah, I loved that reaction.

Patrick

Throwing some love to our flower woman and her victim. There they were, respectively Gail Chorian and James Loxley, both actors. This is the only screen credit that they have. Thank you both.You may not have worked much, but what you did left quite an impression. All the problems that I have have nothing to do with the story and nothing to do with the actors. It all has to do with production and they're minor.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

And they're funny. They're funny as hell. So I'm gonna spend my time on them, but they're. They're not affecting my.My enjoyment of this particular episode at all is that now we cut to like, Sylvia's body in the road and there's that crowd of Canadian extras all like hovered in like three feet, like leaning down, like, just what are you doing? But yet nobody's doing anything because you're extras. It's that whole thing that we talked about earlier.We're like, oh my gosh, we should do something. There's somebody being stabbed in a florist. Dead florist. And people should just go stab. And watch. There's no standing Mary Lou's.They're all just gawking at her and. And that's where we see Helen. Helen's like, oh, look, she dropped something in the road. Someone flying over her dead.And can I just say, I know it's called a compact. Was this an ironically named compact? Because this is huge.

Maya

I think it had to be big enough so we could arbitrarily put a snake on it so you know it's evil.

Patrick

Yeah, that's. That snake is hot glued.

Maya

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not how that was made. It was. Oh, guys, I know what to put on this.They got, like a little plastic rubber toy, painted it gold and glued it on there.

Patrick

It's. It's very big. Like, you could take out one of those gigantic, like, circus level makeup powder puffs in there. Wow.

Trae

Wow.

Patrick

Very big. So now we cut to curious goods. And then I don't know what happened for a while because Micki came down the stairs at the beginning. I'm like,.

Maya

Mine says, where is Robey's hair? Two question marks. She wears a fez, all caps, corset, bolero.

Trae

Yep. I got Robey clothes and hat, corset, castle, explanation point,.

Patrick

Organ grinder, Greek Orthodox, Temple of Doom, Victorian genie.

Maya

Yeah, her notes are better because she had.

Patrick

What we left off is that she had hammer pants on.

Maya

Oh, I tried to forget the hammer pants.

Patrick

Yeah, well, you have to take in the whole ensemble, but.

Trae

Yeah, but they actually did say something kind of interesting. That one section about how they've collected, like 15 artifacts.

Patrick

23.

Jack

Well, I think that's pretty good. That's 23 cursed objects that we've recovered.

Ryan

23 Locked in the vault, safe and sound. We're doing pretty good.

Micki

That's still less than 10% of the objects in the manifest. It's just not fast enough.

Ryan

What do you want us to do?Hire more staff maybe?

Jack

Oh, sure. Watch them make off with the merchandise. You know, the trouble. Trouble with evil is it's very tempting.It's very hard to find paragons of virtue such as ourselves.

Ryan

Yeah.

Jack

Now we just have to take it one step at a time, Micki.

Maya

But it's only the 15th episode, which means they've been working hard when we weren't looking.

Patrick

Yeah, there were some ones that just, you know, somebody just was like, okay, here.

Maya

Oh, here it is.

Trae

We found it.

Maya

Yay.

Trae

And they're already talking about the compact for some reason.

Patrick

I was just next. Oh, well, Ryan was like, okay. They were just trying. I think they said, oh, there's 230 more to get back. And Ryan, which one do we do?And he goes, let's do use the scientific method. And he went, bing. You know, just flips a bunch of pages and pointed randomly. And it was the compact.

Ryan

Then what do we go after today? Well, why don't we use the scientific method? Here we go. One gold compact sold to Sylvia Unger. The address is in town.

Maya

Yeah. They read it out of the book,.

Trae

And they're looking in the newspaper at the story of the woman being killed.

Maya

And there's a picture of Helen in the newspaper.

Trae

In the background.

Maya

Picking up the compact in the background is a stretch. Her face is visible or jacket's visible. Her face?

Trae

Yeah, her face and her jacket.

Patrick

Her face is. And her jacket are physical. And like, she's in this pose. Like, she would have been cropped out of the photo.

Maya

Yeah,.

Trae

But looking at the.

Patrick

But it's a hilarious but again, that's a production issue.

Trae

Well, and they can tell that what high school she goes to because she's wearing a high school jacket.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

And there's only. There's only one high school in the city. Well, no, no.

Trae

And also, this is the whole thing about America.

Patrick

Lincoln High School, they double down on that one.

Trae

But here's the thing. They kept calling it a high school jacket. And it's really. Like, for me, it was letterman jacket.

Maya

It was the letterman jacket.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

And Helen is not.

Patrick

She's on the Gross Club.

Maya

She's the only member of Gross Club.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah. I figured it was like one of her sister's old boyfriends. That's my story. Because it didn't fit. It didn't.

Maya

That's good. Head cannon. I like that.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

Yeah. And Joanne doesn't want it anymore. So, sure, Helen, you can have it. It'd be a nice thing. She'll help fulfill included.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

All of that tracks. I like it.

Trae

That's good. It fits them.

Patrick

But yeah, it's Lincoln High School. And later on, when we find out when one of our intrepid heroes is roaming the halls of the high school, you get to see a sign for the Lincoln prom.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

Who's on the poster? Abraham Lincoln.

Maya

Well.

Patrick

Oh, it's not. It's just. It just happens to be named Lincoln. It couldn't be anybody. Nope. You said you picked American president. Stop lying. It was Canada.Please don't. I love it. I love it. Makes me happy. Okay, so. Yeah. So we meet Helen.Now we're back on campus with Helen, her sister Joanne, and her boyfriend, Joanne's boyfriend Scott, walking across campus, and there's a bunch of bullies picking on Helen. Rightly so.

Greg

That Joanne is sure some piece of merchandise, but that sister of hers, God, how can I be the same family?Well, she must have come from the shallow end of the gene pool.

Helen

You wanna come say that to my face?

Patrick

Zack Ward is one of them. And the other one, I think was late for his gig at Colonial Williamsburg. Yes, I wrote that down.

Trae

He has a big, long afro and a ponytail. Afro and a ponytail or curly hair?

Maya

I mean, a lot of bad hair happens in high school. And, like, there's a lot of. I'm gonna reclaim my image. I'm gonna make a new image, and, like, bad hair happens. But wow, though.

Patrick

I'm just thinking where maybe they doing a production of 1776 at Lincoln High School, the Canadian version, where instead of molasses and rum, he sings maple syrup to moose head.

Trae

He had Bernadette Peters hair.

Patrick

Thank you, Maya Perfume. Maya gets it.

Maya

I don't want to. I want to give it back.

Trae

I was going to say, though, he has a like. Like circus 1970s Bernadette Peters hair.

Maya

No, Bernadette has always had a tighter ringlet than that. Do not come to my house and reference Bernadette Peters.

Patrick

Like, the fact that it's such a big curly bunch. It's a big mop of hair, but then it's pulled back in a tiny, tiny ponytail that you don't see all the time.It just looks like he's got the perm that my mother had in 1974.

Maya

Oh, no.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah. It's very bad. It's very bad. But, yeah, they're picking on her. One of my favorite interchange.Zach Ward sent something insulting to Helen, and she turned around, you want to say that to my face? And he went, ew. No. Also, what I liked about this casting was that Helen the actress is not drop dead gorgeous, but they put glasses on her.

Trae

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She actually looks like she looked like a teenager. Yeah.

Maya

And they, like, accented some zits and stuff on her, but they didn't do the thing where they cast gorgeous people in their mid-20s, then put glasses and a mousy bun on the nerd. Like, she looked like a teenager.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of her clothes were. Yeah, yeah. She's just nasty.

Maya

But they. They did the same with the teenage boys, and I loved that. Also, no one was well dressed.No one knew how to pick out things that fit them well all the time. And I. They looked like even. Even the people we weren't supposed to empathize with looked high school.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that one's hair. Come on now.

Maya

Oh, the hair.

Patrick

You are with that hair. Come on.

Trae

And the sister and her boyfriend just seemed like the perfect couple I knew in high school. Who are nice. I mean, they're not bad. They're actually. Both of them.

Maya

They were nice. And both of them tried to defend Helen very early in the episode.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah, her boyfriend. Her boyfriend who goes over to the Bull. He's like, guys, could you just please stop?

Maya

I do not.

Patrick

Clearly they're friends. Just like, can you just not do that, please?

Scott

All right, I've warned you guys before. Get off her case.

Russell

Hey, come on, Scott, lighten up.We didn't mean anything. Give it a rest, will ya?

Scott

Yeah, all right, but it's a package deal and Joanne hates it when people bother Helen

Russell

Okay, sorry, Helen.

Patrick

And he's good looking, but still they seem nice. They're a nice couple together.They see there's no sign of them being nasty to anybody, which is including Helen. Yeah, yeah, Helen's the one who's walking 20ft behind. They're saying, come on, Helen, walk with us.

Maya

And they're like, you're gonna be late for class. That's going poorly for your record. Nell's like, come on, Helen, you're gonna.

Joanne

Be late for school again.

Joanne

Bell's gonna ring any minute.

Helen

I'm fine, okay? Just worry about yourself.

Scott

Dreaming about some guy.

Helen

I don't dream about guys.

Joanne

Oh, come on, Helen.

Helen

I don't dream. Are you calling me a liar or something?

Scott

Hey, Helen, it's not worth getting upset about.

Helen

It's not easy when your own sister calls you a liar.

Trae

Oh, every time you talk to Helen, she just wants to punch you.

Patrick

I just want to stay back and look at Scott's ass. Because Helen covets her sister's goods. Yeah, yeah, Helen's got some coveting going on.

Trae

Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw it. Yeah, she just. Yeah, she's off with him.

Maya

Yeah. My next note says, no, don't steal your sister's boyfriend.

Trae

Yeah.

Trae

But then, you know, she, I, it's. What's his face. Scott Barkis is being mean and she shines the compact in his face accidentally.

Maya

I don't think she knows about the powers yet. I think she's just playing with this new thing she got off a dead lady.

Patrick

Yeah, she was looking at it. He said something snarky. She. She turned around to be like, you shut up. Like, hey, you go to hell. That's what she said. Whatever his name was Greg.You go to hell, Greg. And she was looking at the Compass. Compass. Compact. While she did that. And it just so happened, he looked right into it.You see the light flash across his eyes?

Greg

Hey, Helen, what's doing?

Helen

Leave me alone, Greg.

Greg

I'm just trying to be sociable, all right? Just want to know if you're going to prom or anything.

Helen

Now, why would I want to waste my time watching dorks dance?

Greg

Well, I mean, everybody's going, aren't they?

Helen

You know, not me. I've got better things to do. Like watching paint dry.

Greg

Well, what would you say if I asked you to the prom?

Helen

I would rather have root canal than go anywhere with you.

Greg

Yeah, well, with a face like yours, the only way to take you to the prom is on a leash.

Helen

You can go to hell.

Greg

You're so beautiful.

Helen

Stay away from me, Greg. Please.

Greg

You're so.

Greg

You're so beautiful. I've never seen you like this before.

Helen

I'm warning you.

Helen

Don't. Don't go.

Greg

I wouldn't hurt you.

Greg

Not you.

Helen

I'm gonna tell Scott.

Greg

What can I do to show how.

Greg

Much I love you, Helen?

Greg

Can I carry your bag?

Helen

Look, you've had your laugh.

Helen

Now leave me alone.

Greg

No, no. Let me carry it for you.

Helen

And what? So it can end up in the garbage somewhere? How stupid do you think I am?

Greg

I love you, Helen. I love you.

Patrick

And all of a sudden, she's in love with it. Because as soon he came over and was like, helen, I love you. I'm so sorry.I can't believe I said this thing. She's just like, stop it. Stop it. Stop making fun of me. She didn't know what happened. She figures it out real quick, though.

Jack

Oh, yeah.

Trae

And they give the nastiest, sloppiest kiss on the not mouth. He kisses her and ends up being, like, on the cheek, but it's just sloppy and. Yes.

Patrick

Yeah. Well, that's what I think was fun, too, is that the people that fall in love with the people with the compact, they are annoying. In love?

Trae

Yes.

Patrick

It's, like, not healthy. It's just like, they won't leave. They're completely annoying. Like, she's just like. Could you just leave me alone for five minutes?He's like, okay, but I'm gonna keep talking to you.

Helen

For God's sake, leave me alone for five minutes, can't you?

Greg

Anything you want. I love you so much.

Helen

I know. I know.

Greg

I'll love you to the day I die.

Maya

I'm gonna keep talking 18 inches away. I'm right here. I'm right here. I love you.

Trae

Yeah, but there's a scene where she's walking down the hallway with him following her and she is just looking at everyone with the smuggest sneer on her face.

Patrick

Yeah. And this is where I have to say her sweater wins the fashion award for me.

Trae

What was it?

Patrick

It was if. Okay, it was an ugly Christmas writer that wasn't for Christmas. It was just. It was like cable knit, but with square dancers on back.

Trae

Oh, God.

Patrick

Like a square dancing cowboy couple. And like music notes all up and down the side. I was like, oh, my God. That's something you wear when you were five.Oh, that's something your mom picked out for you, Helen. Oh, God. But it totally nailed her. It nailed her character. I'm like, that's exactly what that kid would be wearing.

Trae

Yep, yep.

Patrick

It's my favorite sweater. I don't care.

Trae

But the actress is having so much fun playing Helen.

Maya

Oh, yes.

Patrick

Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, just seeing all the heads turn when she's walking down with the hallway with.With Zach, even though she's annoyed, it's got everybody's intention for the first time ever. In a good way. For the first time ever.

Maya

Yeah.

Trae

And also, one thing that's kind of funny is that Helen don't want to fuck. She does not want to fuck in this show.

Maya

No. And that actually was something that surprised me at the beginning of the episode when Sylvia is still alive. I was like, oh, well, this isn't right.Because the tables are turned and it's the woman doing it and that threatens us less. But none of them are after fucking. They're about the power dynamic.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

And that was a fun surprise.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

Yes.

Trae

Yeah. And she pretty much decides she wants to kill them off pretty quickly. She's done with them. And so they go up to the roof.

Maya

They go up to the roof and she throws something in a trash compactor.

Trae

Her hanky. her hanky.

Patrick

Her hanky.

Trae

Her hanky.

Patrick

Like all high school kids carry around, especially ones that are gross.

Trae

And then, of course, you've got the trash compactor. Next to it is a button with a sign saying, caution, trash compactor may start unexpectedly. It's like, no, you hit the button to start it.

Patrick

No, it might be on a time.

Maya

Maybe if you, like, lean back on it in a cool teenage way, it'll start also.

Trae

But she's like, oh, I dropped my Hank in there.

Maya

Oh, it's so importantly, please get it for me.

Patrick

But it was fun to see the journey up to that because she, like when they walked into that scene is when she's going, would you just leave me alone? Would you just leave me alone? Would you just leave me alone? Would you just leave me alone? He's like, yeah, okay, I'll leave you alone.But I'll do anything you want. Anything you say, hon. Anything you say. I'll love you. I love you. I love you till the day I die. And that's where the idea hits her.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

And she's like, I wonder. Well, you're gonna do anything for me, you get this hanky out of that.

Maya

I love. He gets the hanky. And then there's still a good like 8 or 10 seconds where she could have gotten him out if she wanted to. She does not.

Helen

All the years you made fun of me. All the jokes, all the teasing.

Greg

That's all behind us now, my darling.

Helen

Greg! my hanky. I'll get it. Don't worry. You think you ought to do that? It might start.

Greg

No problem. I can get out. Helen, it's moving.

Helen

You better hurry.

Greg

Helen, please.

Ryan

Greg, please. I swear, I need it. Just get it for me.

Greg

I found it, Helen. I found it. Helen.

Greg

Girls, we beat.

Greg

Helen! Helen!

Helen

Oh, thank you, Craig.

Greg

Helen, stop the. stop the machine, please. Helen, please. I love you, Helen.

Helen

And I love you, Greg. Until the day you die.

Maya

We lock him in, we hear him die. And she throws her hanky over her shoulder like it's a leather jacket and SMEs off the roof.

Trae

Oh, no. She goes, I love you too. Until the day you die. And. And as he's dying, he's like, helen, hey. It's like he never does spell, never breaks.He's like, Helen.

Patrick

Which I thought was great. Which I thought like, early on, like when. When the. When the machine had started.

Trae

He's not panicking.

Patrick

He's still. No, he's not panicking. He's like. But he is panicking, but he's panicking that he can't find her hanky.

Trae

Yeah. And he's like, his.

Patrick

His goal is to please Helen first. Even if I thought that was great. What a creepy thing to do. And what a grisly way to go. Even though they don't show anything.What a grizzly kill for the show.

Trae

And the same taps into the thing, though, like that teenagers are fucking scary.

Maya

Teenagers are scary mean.

Trae

And this. She really taps into that just maliciousness.

Maya

That maliciousness. But that, like, I remember being so sure that no one understood me. And I was having completely an original. That. Nope.Swap that completely original thoughts.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Like I remember. No.

Patrick

No one in the world has ever felt this way. Yeah.

Maya

100. I was so strongly that when you.

Patrick

Expect it's a war of hormones in your body, you're literally insane for like six years.

Maya

War of hormones. And I had always been, like, good at a couple things. So teachers got me and other kids didn't, and it was just so. No, I just.I love that it tapped into that.

Trae

Yeah. And the fact that if the loser ever gets power, they're going to be a horrible person. They're not going to try and make people nice.They're just going to go and get revenge.

Maya

Well, this loser particularly, I. I think they did such a successful job. But showing her is actually mean and not misunderstood.

Trae

Right? Exactly. Yeah.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She did not have any redeeming qualities.

Maya

Nope.

Trae

Not at all.

Patrick

None. Zero.

Maya

Zip.

Patrick

The compact found the right person,.

Trae

Which makes it even scarier because you think of a teenage girl this nasty. Yeah. I don't want to think of them.

Patrick

Getting that kind of power.

Maya

No, thank you.

Trae

And once she zapped you, you're. I mean, you have, you know, free will and that's.

Maya

That's it. And we didn't establish any way to get out of the spell. Right? Like, that's it. You're. You're done.

Patrick

No, you're dead.

Trae

Yeah, you're dead.

Patrick

The only way out is dead. So what I thought was great. They get like every high school yearbook in town, apparently.I guess you just go to the high school yearbook library or Jack had.

Maya

Them all because he's creepy without a teen. Please. Why sure. Have miss your book.

Trae

Can I have last two years as well?

Patrick

Jack? Jack, why are all the pictures of the swim team practicing cut out? Oh, what a mystery.

Maya

I believe you mean the wrestling team.

Patrick

Them too.

Trae

Well, Jack in this episode mentions he's so happy to see someone called Rashid.

Jack

You know, all these books, can't find a thing about that compact. Maybe I should call in on Rashid. Must be back from Cairo by now, huh?

Patrick

I think that's a callback to an episode we skipped.

Trae

Okay, okay. Because he seems so cheerful and happy to see Rashid when we never see Rashid. Oh.

Maya

Maybe Rashid is someone who survived a previous curse.

Trae

Or one of Jack's former lovers. I mean, friends, business associates.

Maya

Yeah.

Trae

Special wig maker.

Patrick

His accent coach.

Maya

Oh, I'll get more lessons, bud. All right.

Patrick

But. But yeah. So. So Micki shows up at Helen's house interrupting a lovely night in front of the TV after the death of Greg.

Trae

Oh, and the other two, her sister and boyfriend are really upset and she's like, eh, he was annoying, bereft.

Patrick

They're bereft.

Joanne

Something like that happen to Greg. What a horrible thing. I was talking to him only a few hours before.

Scott

Yeah, he was always fooling around.

Scott

But a trash compactor, like, why would.

Scott

He get in there?

Trae

They're really upset and she's just munching on a sandwich.

Scott

Poor Helen.

Helen

No, it's all right.

Helen

It doesn't bother me. It was becoming a pain in the butt anyway.

Helen

Bad breath.

Joanne

How can you talk like that?

Helen

It's the truth.

Helen

Scott, want a sandwich?

Patrick

The grossest looking sandwich. And her feet are fucking filthy. And I wanted to vomit. Not just like walking around on a dirty floor.Like that kind of dirty bottom of the feet thing that happens every now and then. Like it was dirty top and bottom under the nails. Shower. And she has not seen a shower in a long time. And that is nasty.

Maya

Maybe if you showered, your nits would clear up.

Trae

Yeah, and her scabby, Scabby.

Maya

Oh, scabby. Picked at zits. They were all. And her red, red, red.

Trae

And her lip was kind of like.

Maya

Oh, yeah, her lip had a.

Trae

She had a hurt lister on.

Patrick

She had a big herp. Yeah.

Maya

How's she gonna get the herp?

Patrick

You can. You can get the herp from any things. You know, you can get it from.

Maya

A water fountain, actually, you can. You can be one.

Patrick

Herp one.

Maya

No herp one. I mean, both herps you could be born with, but herp1? Yeah. Water fountain.

Patrick

Maybe I was born with it. Maybe it's herp1.

Maya

It can be. It can be. Damn it. Damn it. Damn you.

Patrick

No, it can be the way this herpet just won't go away. Baby, I was born this way.

Maya

Oh, Lord. I'm watching. I'm watching American Horror Story right now. There's a lot of Lady Gaga in my life. And.

Patrick

Would you like a bite of my sandwich? Scott? Scott's like, it looked like a lettuce sandwich. Like, is there anything on this jacket is sticking out.

Trae

But Micki shows up and she's just.

Patrick

In the same outfit again, looking as conspicuous as not looking like a normal person coming the door.

Micki

Hi, I'm Micki Foster. I'm a buyer from an antique store.

Helen

We're not interested. We got all the useless old things we need.

Micki

Well, actually, I'm looking for a small gold compact. I was wondering if you'd seen it.

Helen

What makes you think I'd want some gungy old hunk of junk?

Micki

A compact, A gold compact that could really be worth quite a bit of money.

Helen

I said I never saw anything like that. Beat it

Helen

Helen!

Patrick

Although I have to say, she looks amazing. The close ups of her in the doorway, she looks stunning. Like Hollywood glamour stunning. Her makeup is flawless. Everything is great.The little flu from the hair. Loved everything. But I'm like, if that person showed up at my door and said, hi, I want to buy something for you, I'm like, there's something wrong.

Maya

Something is up. I have been targeted.

Trae

Well, then she's like, I just. Do you have any antiques you want to sell? Like maybe a compact? And Helen's like, you go to hell. No. Leave me alone.

Patrick

Micki, smooth is always.

Trae

Yeah. Just very, very unsubtle.

Patrick

Yeah, but now she's tipped off. She's tipped off the villain. Well done.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Yeah. Micki's never been the smartest, huh?

Trae

No. So this is my part of, like, Ryan has to go undercover as a student.

Maya

Yeah. I love this for the like. Well, we've already established that Micki has been seen.And Jack, you're too old, Ryan, you better hang out with some teenagers.

Ryan

There was an accident today on campus. One of the local jocks got killed.

Micki

Any chance it really wasn't an accident?

Ryan

Well, yeah. You never know when there's a cursed object around.

Ryan

Did she have the compact?

Micki

Well, she says that she doesn't, but from the way she reacted, I don't know.

Jack

Well, we gotta find out. We gotta find out fast. After today, Micki can't get anywhere close to her. I'd stand out like a sore thumb.

Ryan

That's what I thought.

Patrick

I was angry about this because I was very mad at the choice that they sent Micki to the door because we were thwarted a scene where he was like, hello, I'm Lucy Bender, girl freshman. I'm new here.

Trae

Just have that beard.

Patrick

Could you point me to chemistry class?

Trae

He would say it just like that.

Patrick

Girlfriend.

Maya

No, no, no. The best. The best, Robey. The best. Robey. Word this episode was disappeared.

Ryan

I can't find him anywhere.

Micki

And Helen's disappeared.

Maya

I wrote it in all caps in my notes. Disappeared.

Patrick

I'm like, wait a minute. So Ryan is supposed to be going undercover this high school? Are you kidding?Because the thing is, the high school kids in this actually do look like high school kids. Yeah, yeah.

Trae

And I think they like moose his hair up just a little bit.

Patrick

But otherwise, granted, granted, it never has to come to fruition.

Maya

Maybe he's the super senior and he got held back.

Trae

Yeah, he never.

Patrick

He never actually has to interact with anybody. He get. He walks right into a trap. Right away he walks in the wrong place.

Trae

But we're not.

Patrick

We're not. We're not there yet. Because it's prom season, everybody. And you know what? I thought again, this is production. Like, it's prom season.When did proms happen?

Trae

At the end of the year.

Maya

Spring.

Patrick

Yeah. There was not a leaf on a tree. Everyone is wearing winter jackets.

Trae

Oh, the opening scene, it was cold.

Patrick

Yeah. They are not in prom season. You could have just made it a dance.

Maya

Maybe it's homecoming.

Patrick

The sign said prom. Signs at prom. They said prom repeatedly.

Trae

It was a very late winner.

Patrick

When keeps calling it a dance.

Trae

But no, actually there was a curved weather vein in a previous episode that made it really late winter.

Maya

Oh, okay.

Trae

That's all I got.

Maya

I. I think that's a valiant effort.

Patrick

Or it's Canada. Yeah, no, Canada.

Maya

I guess Lincoln High in Canada.

Trae

With high school jacket.

Patrick

But again, that's a production problem. And again, it interferes with nothing except me being an asshole. But they're setting up for the prom and Helen's.Helen's helping set it up for the prom. And the thing is, Russell, the guy with the colonial hair, you know, Colonial hair? Colonial hair. It just needed to be powdered.If it was powdered, I would be very happy.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

He saw all this. He was watching all this. He's like, there's something wrong. Like she did something.

Maya

Yeah, he clocked it. And he was like, what did you do? I know you did something. What did you do? And she's like, leave me alone.

Patrick

I would go to the police, but they never showed up.

Maya

You know, those Canadian police, they're just too chill. Versus.

Trae

Which is good because his people are aware of the weird stuff happening.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The body was found, so everybody's mourning.

Maya

Great.

Patrick

At the dances are canceled and they don't have a day off of school. But okay, whatever. Canada, you just roll on with it.

Maya

But, you know.

Patrick

But he's onto it.

Trae

Yeah.

Russell

What the hell did you do to him?

Helen

I don't know what you're talking about, Craig.

Russell

What did you do?

Helen

I didn't do anything.

Russell

Hell you didn't. You did something sick and disgusting to him. You made him crawl in front of the whole damn school.

Helen

Hey, any crawling he did was his own idea.

Russell

You humiliated him. You abused him. I don't know why he took it from you.

Helen

Maybe it was love.

Russell

Love? What would you know about love? I don't care what I have to do. I don't care how long it takes. I'm gonna find out what you did and I'll get you.

Patrick

And again, another great scene where he's following Greg around, watching what happens with Under Helen Spell. He's standing with a kid that has a shirt that says no problem in rainbow letters. No problem Gay extra.

Maya

Yeah, it's amazing. Wardrobe let you through with that, but okay.

Trae

Yeah. They don't know what it meant. It was.

Patrick

It was a different time.

Maya

Yeah. No, the people running wardrobe in Canada are straight.

Trae

Oh, well, it is like the opposite.

Patrick

America, they're five years behind. They're five years behind. As always.

Trae

Remember that. Well, Canada's bizarro America, so.

Maya

Yeah, okay, okay, fair enough.

Patrick

And good for them at this point.

Trae

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,.

Patrick

Yeah. So, okay, back to killing people. He confronts her in the gym. He's like, I know what you did. I know you did something.I knew what you did, and you're awful. I'm gonna tell everybody. She gives him a little flash. Ohhh Russell? BANG!

Ryan

I'm gonna find out what you did,And I'll get you

Helen

Russell. I'll tell you.

Russell

Why did I never see you !

Russell

I said I didn;t know what

Russell

Was saying Forgive me, me please

Helen

Come with me, lover

Trae

he's smitten he's under.

Patrick

The sway and one of the things that I hate about this series is the music.

Maya

Yeah, yeah. The. The exact same cue they play with, the synthesize that goes.

Patrick

With, like, random. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. It just sounds like somebody's hitting the keyboard randomly. I liked oh, doggy Athol. Just happened.

Maya

Okay.

Patrick

Anyway, but she. She gives a little flash. He falls under the sway, and again, he's following her all around. I love you. I love. I love it, love it, love it.She leads him upstairs into the witch, out into one of those stairwells like it was again. One of those stairwell work rooms. Might as well have had that sign from Dr. Jack, you know? No. No personnel admit. Nobody admitted ever.

Maya

And then later, the half sign that shows up in the stairwell, that's a completely different side.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah.

Maya

She.

Patrick

She takes into some workroom with equipment in it.

Maya

Yeah, no, it's. It's wood shop. Didn't your high school have wood shop?

Patrick

No.

Trae

Oh, mine did.

Maya

My middle school did, and then my high school did, but it wasn't. Wasn't required in high school. But no, we. We had those in mind. Normal enough. I'll give it a pass.

Trae

Yeah, okay, fine.

Maya

Table saw. Table saw.

Trae

So you know where this is going?

Maya

Yeah, you do.And the direction is so specific, and I think it was so much tighter than previous episodes we've seen where you see the imminent threat, but you're not Lingering too long on what's obviously going to be a murder we. And I think it was just really well constructed, this episode.

Trae

Yeah. And she starts leaning him down on it and he's still just in love with her.

Patrick

Yeah. And he's aware of it too, which is great. He's like. Yeah, he's like.He's uncomfortable, but he's like, I'm still going to keep talking until pledging my lunch. Until this thing cuts through the back of my skull. Yeah.

Russell

I never knew what it was like. I never felt like this before. I need you.

Helen

I'm so glad to hear you say that. Right, Russell. Especially after all those terrible things you said to me. Do you remember all those things, Russell?

Russell

But that was before I saw you. Really saw you. I mean, I love you, Helen. I'll always love you.

Helen

Until the day you die. Do you really love me, Russell? Say I'm beautiful.

Helen

Say it.

Russell

You are.

Russell

I never knew that anything could be as beautiful as you.

Trae

That pretty hair all destroyed.

Maya

Oh, well, the hair deserved to be destroyed, but we couldn't get it off.

Patrick

And Russell was played by Simon Reynolds. Simon Reynolds, incredibly prolific character actor going all the way back to the 80s. He was in the Gate 2.You know, the sequel to the Gate with little monster creature things with the kids. You know the one. He was in Saw IV. He was one of the. One of the detective guys trying to solve everything.He had a nice little 20 episode stint on Warehouse 13. And just recently he was in a movie that's on Tubi right now called Vampire Zombies from Space, which is fucking amazing.If you like the Lost Skeleton of Cadaver, you will love Vampire Zombies from Space. Big bong. Back to the show.

Trae

Well, Patrick, you're talking about the music. Go ahead.

Patrick

Oh, the little, the little, the little Enchantment. Yeah, she has her own theme. Was nice. Yeah, it was simple, but it was a nice refreshing simple.That little tinkly thing which I'm probably playing underneath right now.

Trae

I wrote that Helen has her own theme, so.

Patrick

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Helen theme. Play Me Helen song.

Trae

But then of course, what's his face?

Patrick

Undercover. Undercover. And Ryer comes bursting in. At least we didn't have to seem like infiltrating class.

Trae

No, I would have loved that.

Patrick

Or some.

Maya

No, that would have broken our perfect episode. That would have made me sad if.

Patrick

We didn't do it because it would have been some whole thing if like all of a sudden he's like snooping around the girls locker room.

Maya

He would have been stooping around or he'd been giving joke answers in English class. Like, I don't want to deal with any of that.

Trae

But he goes. He's down the basement and sees Helen, and she tries to zap him.

Maya

And he keeps covering his face and holding a bag up in front of him, putting it in his elbow. And he's like, no, no, not that.

Trae

Well, I kept thinking, just headbutter. Just rush her. She's like six feet away from him.

Maya

I guess he was never on the football team then, huh?

Trae

No, because she's just, like, standing there. He's six feet away, like, no, no, don't shine my eyes. I'm thinking, okay, keep your head low. I mean, what else are you gonna do?But no, he doesn't do that. He doesn't attack him. Instead, he falls off a balcony. No, Helen.

Maya

Helen.

Patrick

Get away from me.

Maya

No, no, no.

Patrick

What a weird construct of a hallway, whatever that thing is with it. He goes to this door, and it's just like this bridge to nowhere.

Trae

The walkway.

Patrick

Yeah, this walkway in the middle, that's just like another one of these weird. If we're not in alleys, we're in weird factory rooms. Like, weird factory. Like.

Maya

Yeah, yeah, that was. That was weird. I got confused with where we were when that happened.

Trae

And then there's, like a big pipe next to it, and then it's underneath. It's like the second level because there's a whole story underneath it. And he falls.

Maya

He knocks himself out for several hours. We're talking.

Trae

I know.

Maya

Brain damage here.

Trae

That's what I was thinking. I was like, he's out for a while.

Maya

He shouldn't be like, I'll give you. I'll give you 15 minutes. Rats.

Patrick

Those rats were helping him out. Some rats growing on him. Yeah, but. But mercifully, it took him out of the story for a while.So we could go back to the more interesting story of Helen and everybody else, because otherwise we'd be focusing on his.

Maya

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Patrick

This would. This would never have happened to Lucy Bender, girl freshman. I would have become her best friend.I would be like, you can't be doing this anymore, Helen. It's wrong. Have you seen my hat?

Trae

Well, Micki switches to braids at this point.

Patrick

Oh, God. But still. But still. And she's got a new hat on, but it's still kind of fez esque because it's flat at the top.She's like this weird baker's hat, but it's black. So she's. Again, Again. She's supposed to be stealth. Very conspicuous.

Maya

Very conspicuous.

Trae

And these braids go down to, like, her belly button almost.

Patrick

Yeah.

Maya

Long ass hair.

Patrick

Today they are Land O' Lakes braids.

Trae

Okay, but here's where something happened that pissed me off.

Maya

Not anymore. Because there's no lady on the butter anymore. So there.

Trae

Yeah. No. So they're talking jack about the compact, and they're like, it can make a woman fall in love with a man or a man fall in love with a woman.They go, well, could it go for a man with a man? He's like, no, I don't think this compact. I wrote that compact is homophobic.

Jack

Now we got to figure out our next move.

Micki

I'll go look for Ryan.

Jack

What, you think I'm going to leave you here alone?

Micki

Why not? The compact wouldn't work on me, would it?

Jack

Everything I've read.

Jack

Maybe it wouldn't.

Micki

What about you?

Jack

Just make sure I don't look at it.

Trae

They specifically asks, could it have the same sex attraction?

Patrick

Well, I thought. I said. Well, I thought, you know, Micki was like, well, it won't work on me. Yeah, I'll go after it. It won't work on me. I'm Lucy Bender, girl freshman

Maya

Exactly.

Maya

No, that. That's what I remember is.

Patrick

Is it won't work on me. Have you seen my hats?

Maya

Oh, she'll just tilt the hat in front of her face real fast.

Trae

So the devil is heteronormative.

Patrick

And also, there were no lesbians in Canada at that point. They didn't exist. They had. Didn't evolve yet.

Maya

Maybe our gaydar is just broken in Canada because too many people are wearing flannel.

Patrick

That would make all of them lesbians or bears.

Maya

Exactly. Like everyone looks like a bear or a lesbian. And some of them are probably straight.

Patrick

But anyway, so he's down there, Micki and Jack, or off running around doing some shit. Doing weird stealth. They're trying to find him.

Maya

Basically trying to find him. They're kind of looking for and trying.

Patrick

To find him or Helen. And I'm going. It's prom night. Why don't you go to the prom? Yep, that's probably where they are. It's every. Or somebody there will know where they are.But no, we have to cut back to Helen's out.

Jack

Oh.

Patrick

Because they're getting ready for the prom.

Maya

Oh, my God.

Patrick

I loved every second of all this.

Maya

Oh, my God.

Patrick

And not an ironic way. It was great. Helen trying to put on makeup for the first time was great.

Joanne

Helen, have you seen my eyeliner? Helen, how come you're getting made up none of your business. Are you going to the dance? That's great. You got a date?

Helen

Why not?Why is that such a weird idea?

Joanne

It's nothing like that. I'm delighted.

Joanne

Who is it?

Joanne

Somebody special? That's terrific. It's about time you started dating. Did you want me to help you with your makeup?

Helen

No.

Joanne

Well, if you do want some help, just call me.

Patrick

Fabulous.

Trae

Well, Patrick, you'll get this. Friday the 13th, part seven. Had Maddie the ugly duckling. You know, you need a little touch of work.And she looks beautiful, like this blue little dress. Wait, Helen is the exact opposite.

Patrick

She's exactly what a teenager who doesn't normally dress up and do makeup and go out does the first time they go out.

Maya

It's not intuitive. And hair is not intuitive, so it's obvious. She's putting effort to it.Like, she's got these, like, harsh lines over her eyelids where a shadow would go. And her hair is this awful matted mess. Off to one side, I got a.

Patrick

Fake eyelash in the middle of her forehead.

Maya

And she has this awful green satin dress, and it's just a nightmare.

Joanne

What a pretty compact. Is that gold?

Helen

No, it's just cheap.

Joanne

Looks like gold. So this date of yours. Do I know him? Is he from school?

Helen

I want it to be a surprise. He's. He's. He's.He's coming by tonight.

Joanne

That's great, Helen. I think you're gonna have a wonderful time. If there's anything I can do.

Patrick

It. It doesn't fit. It's. I can see she's going for the Cyndi Lauper look and failing miserably, which we've all been. We've all been there.Like, we've all been there, where you saw something on a mannequin when you're a teenager. Like, I'm gonna get that. I look great. And you get home, you're like, oh, God, yeah, yeah.

Maya

No, you need a stylist to pull that off.

Trae

Yeah. But then the sister and the brother are all looking nice, and they're.

Maya

They look so nice.

Patrick

Like, Joanne offered help.

Maya

She offered to help.

Patrick

She was so excited to see that. Like, why are you putting on makeup? What's going on? She came and looking for an eyeliner and thrilled that her sister has a date.

Maya

Oh, it could have been my sister. I've been like, that's my eyeliner, and I will murder you. Stay out of my room. Don't touch my things. And she's like, oh, you look so great.You're going to the dance after all. Who's your date? Helen's like, he's gonna come pick me up.

Trae

Let me alone. I'm Helen.

Patrick

Poor Joanne.

Maya

Oh, yeah. She gets the short end of the stick this episode.

Patrick

She really does. She really does.

Ryan

And.

Patrick

And she offers to help.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Twice.

Patrick

With the makeup.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

She. She's like, do you need help? Just when she was helping in the scene in front of the vanity. The actual vanity, not the vanity. Yeah, I got it. I'm okay.Fine.

Trae

Stimulus.

Patrick

Having a nice little meet cute. Not a meet cute, but just like, oh, there's the. Oh, there's a happy couple. She gets the night.She comes down the stairs in her purple dress looking fabulous.

Maya

She looks great.

Patrick

He looks dashing as hell in his tux. They are the perfect couple.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

So our perfect couple was played by David Orth and Gwendolyn Pacey. David Orth, he'll be back on Friday the 13th, the series two more times in season three on the episodes Demon Hunter and Midnight Writers.Long list of respectable Canadian TV and movie credits. Most notably, he was on the Canadian series the Lost World for 54 episodes. So good for you, David. Gwendolyn Pacey as Joanne. She didn't do a lot.She only did a handful of projects. But she will be back on Friday the 13th for the sequel to this episode, Face of Evil, reprising her role as Joanne.And I'm sorry, I realize, I realize this is just me as a producer in my head or a director. I would have demanded that, despite her outfit, that Helen would gut a slow motion staircase entrance like an ace.

Maya

That's because you're a ham, not because you're a producer.

Trae

That would have been funny.

Maya

But we're not playing it for laughs. We're playing her as a threat. That's why we didn't do it. I wouldn't.

Patrick

But it wouldn't have been for life because that's what Helen thinks she's doing. That's what.

Trae

That's.

Maya

We're not shooting the rest of this episode from her point of view at all. I would fight you on consistency. Fight.

Patrick

That's the thing you were just talking about earlier, about you being confrontational.

Maya

I. I don't know what you're talking about.

Patrick

The patrons do,.

Trae

But the other. But the. They're actually supportive of what Helen looks like. They don't.

Maya

Yeah. Neither of them go, honey, you can't go out like that. It's. You made an effort. That's great. Your date's coming. That's great.We're gonna go because we're already Late. But if you need money for a cab, we got you. Like, they are so supportive.

Joanne

Scott, Helen's got a date for the prom.

Scott

That's great.

Helen

How do I look? I think I look nice. Scott, do you think I look nice?

Scott

Well, you certainly will attract attention, Helen

Helen

Do you really think so? Am I as pretty as Joanne? Scott?

Scott

Yeah, in a different way.

Joanne

Helen, do you think maybe we should go and check out your makeup?

Helen

I want to see what my date says. He might really like it. Are you trying to tell me I look funny? Can't I do something my way? Something I want to do?Who are you to tell me what to wear or how to look?

Scott

Joanne, don't worry about it. What difference does it make? Maybe her date will like it better.

Joanne

Go.

Helen

Can't you wait for my date to show up? Please?

Joanne

We're late already.

Scott

Come on.

Scott

Why can't we give her a few more minutes?

Patrick

It can hurt. Yeah, yeah. But even then. But even though Joanne was like, helen, we'll just maybe take upstairs and just maybe fix.

Maya

Fix a few things.

Patrick

And Helen snaps.

Trae

Oh, she's like, you don't like the way I look? You think I can't.

Patrick

I think my boyfriend will like me like this. I think he'll like me like this, love me like this. I want him to see me like this. Why can't I do anything my own way?

Trae

And doesn't she even say like to the boyfriend? Like, hey, don't you think I look nice?

Maya

Oh, yeah. The beginning of the end, where she starts going, do you think I look nice? Do you think I'm prettier than Joanne? And he.

Trae

Which is the mirror of the flower woman?

Maya

Yes. I hadn't even thought of that. Good observation.

Patrick

And he's all. He's like. He's like, you're better. You're pretty in different ways.

Maya

You're pretty in different ways. It's. But also, you know, competition. Because you're going after the woman I love. So obviously I like her. Like, he's so nice about it.He doesn't snap her. Wants.

Patrick

But what I thought just backtracking a bit before. Before Joanne makes her entrance down the stairs, he calls up. So he's like, joanne was taking so long. Did you die up there?Do you need me to come up and give you moose to mouth? Hey, Joanne, you need some help up there? Joanne, are you still alive? Maybe I should call a paramedic or come up and give you some mouth to mouth.

Maya

Moose to moose.

Patrick

Moose to moose.

Maya

Because we're in Canada, eh?

Patrick

A moose To Moose. But then this scene happens. Just as they're about to go out the door, Helen gets out the complex. Oh, Scott.

Trae

Flashy, flashy.

Patrick

And Scott's gone. And this is just cruel.

Trae

Oh, yeah, Helen's over.

Maya

Brutal.

Joanne

Helen, we have to get going. We're late already. We couldn't leave money for you and your date to take a cab?

Helen

Scott, am I prettier than Joanne?

Scott

Well, you're up against some pretty stiff competition, Helen

Helen

Scott.

Scott

Helen,.

Helen

My very darling Scott.

Joanne

Scott, we have to get going.

Joanne

Scott,.

Joanne

What are you doing? This isn't very funny.

Helen

No, no, this is just fine, isn't it, lover?

Joanne

What are you doing?

Scott

You hurt her.

Helen

She does it a lot. Scott, it's gone. Scott, for God's sake. Now let's fix it so she never bothers us again.

Patrick

They just start making out in front of Joanne. Joanne.

Maya

Joanne's like, it's not funny. Please stop. It's not.

Jack

Please.

Maya

And, like, Helen is just heartless.

Trae

And then Helen.

Patrick

Yeah.

Trae

Tells Scott to kick her sister's ass.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

She's mean to me all the time. She's awful to me.

Maya

Wait, we start with a sister fight. So Helen hits Joanne first, and then I'm like, okay, pent up, sister, fine, I get that. And then she sicks Scott on her. And then it's.She's like, oh, she's mean to me all the time, naked, so she'll never hurt me again.

Trae

Yeah, that's what I wrote down. Helen is a little bitch.

Patrick

Poor Joanne. Who has done nothing to deserve this.

Maya

Absolutely nothing.

Trae

Nope.

Patrick

No.

Trae

And even, like, how they haven't behaved realistically for the show, because when Helen starts making out with Scott, you know, the sister's like, what's going on here? Come on, this is a joke.

Maya

Cut it out.

Trae

You know, she kind of has this little sort of escalation of realizing, oh, wait, he's not right.

Patrick

And then 30 seconds later is being punched in the face by her boyfriend. Knocked unconscious.

Trae

That was sad. Yeah.

Patrick

No, lucky. But brilliant. Brilliant.

Trae

But brilliant.

Patrick

Brilliant writing. Shocking.

Trae

And then we cut back to them finding Ryan.

Maya

Who cares?

Trae

Okay. Yeah.

Patrick

No, no. They're so not part of the show, this episode.

Trae

Good.

Patrick

They find him. Why? Oh, gosh.

Maya

And she's like, stand up, stand up. Like, okay, if he has brain damage or, like, any kind of spinal injury, you want to keep him in the recovery position.

Patrick

It's Ryan. It's Ryan. How much more brain does he have?

Maya

But, yeah, that. That's not medical care. That's not what you do.

Patrick

He might be better New. They find the kid with his brain carved out by the saw.

Maya

By the table saw.

Patrick

And then the dog walked through, and.

Maya

The dog's so cute, like. Oh.

Patrick

And then all of a sudden, Micki did like, let's split up.

Maya

Don't split the party. Damn it, Micki.

Patrick

Well, the jack was just like. You're an idiot. No, just stay with me. I got this. Okay. I think you got some hair loose. I think when your braids is coming. Yeah. Are they too tight?Are they too tight?

Maya

Oh, cutting off circulation. Too tight.

Patrick

But then they finally get the bright idea. Oh, they're probably at the prom.

Jack

Yeah.

Trae

Of course.

Patrick

I always love a good problem scene when they open on a disco ball. I'm like, oh, shit's gonna go down. Yeah, shit's gonna go real bad. This is the worst night of everybody's life right here.Canadian problems never go well, based on the movie. No. Oh, great. It's so good. She's they. The couple. Helen and Scott show up, and it's like the parting of the red seas, jaws dropping.

Trae

Yeah. And hell's got that smug little sneer on her face.

Maya

The nasty sneer. I could say snare. I can totally. Nasty snare. Yeah.

Patrick

There's not, like Carrie, where she's genuinely enjoying herself. I'm at the prom and everybody likes me. No. No.

Maya

Oh, well, because Carrie breaks your heart, but this is just like. No, stone cold bad things are gonna happen.

Trae

Yep. And then they keep going back to her sister.

Maya

They have this awful rig.

Ryan

They.

Maya

They've hung her up on a ceiling lamp, and she's on her tiptoes and stockings on a chair.

Trae

Yeah, it's.

Patrick

It's to kill her, but we want to make sure she suffers for as long as possible before she dies, which is so mean. Yeah.

Maya

Depending on how skinny teenager she is, her weight would probably break the lamp, and then she could come down, right?

Trae

Maybe, Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. This is also a show where Ryan can pass as a high schooler, so.

Patrick

Well, if. If. If Micki went in and burnt the cord to the lamp with the torch, how long would it take to burn through? 45 Seconds. She has 45 seconds to live.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Oh, yeah.

Patrick

25 Seconds. 25 Seconds. Sorry.

Maya

So, yeah, we're emotionally torturing. Well, no, physically, we are all kinds of torturing. Joanne.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

The dance has gotten terrifying. And then Helen takes Scott up to the roof to dance.

Trae

Well, first.

Patrick

Well, no, they. They're having their. Their romance. Their first dance. And then Ricky, Micki and Ryan burst in to the rescue in the middle of. And I Love everyone.I love that whoever. I love that whoever was at the door. The prom was like blood covered guy go, right. Yeah, that makes sense.

Maya

That makes sense, I'm sure. Do you just have too much.

Patrick

Oh, you're with. Oh, you're with Lucy Benner. Go ahead.

Trae

We all know Lucy.

Maya

There she is. We gotta get him away from her.

Helen

Oh my God.

Ryan

You didn't expect to see me again, did you?

Ryan

Give me the compact

Helen

Leave me alone. Get him away from me.

Micki

Why don't you Tell him what's in store for him.How are you going to kill him.

Ryan

You're going to have to kill him. You're going to have to kill him like you killed all the others.

Helen

Scott, let's go.

Scott

Hey.All right,.

Ryan

Where are they?

Micki

There they go.

Trae

But he calls Helen out in the middle of the whole dance floor.

Maya

Exactly.

Patrick

Like instead of just being, he goes, where are they? Where are they? And then he goes, oh, she's over there. And then he takes three steps like, we know what you've done. No stealth.

Trae

Nope.

Patrick

No stealth.

Maya

No stealth.

Trae

But then also when Jack goes to Helen's house and finds the sister and he rescues her and she collapses crying, and I'm thinking, at no point does she say, who the fuck are you and why are you in my house?

Patrick

You know, what? Would you care?

Maya

Yeah, I wouldn't care. She's fine.

Patrick

Would you care?

Trae

At a certain point.

Maya

Who are you? Get out of my house. Wait, but could you take me down first?

Patrick

Put me. Put me. Put me back up there right now, sir.

Trae

But it's just at a certain point.

Patrick

You'd be like, I did not give you consent to cut the rope.

Maya

Yeah, I. I wouldn't give. A dragon gets a pass from me.

Patrick

No, no, no, no. When she gets. And she just like curls up in his arms and is crying, I'm like, oh. And he just. I'm like, oh, there he is. That's Teddy bear jack

Maya

Yeah,.

Jack

I know.

Patrick

There's Teddy bear Jack. I can see he's about. Oh, here's someone who's not a complete idiot.

Trae

Oh, thank God, I'm asleep now.

Patrick

Why can't you own this store? You seem really smart and nice. Look at your hair. It's totally normal. But yeah, so. And there's a melee. There's. Somebody gets. Scott punches Ryan. Yay.And in the interim they run out. And Helen's like, oh, I have a great idea where we can be alone. She takes him up to the roof of another building.

Scott

Where are we going?

Helen

I'll bet the view is beautiful from up here.

Maya

It says auditorium in big letters by the roof, so I don't. I'm not sure they were shooting in a high school, but whatever, it's fine.

Trae

Yeah, but. So they're on the roof and everyone's looking.

Patrick

I'm like, if you have it, if that's the audit. Well, actually, we had an auditorium. It was two different things. Yeah, but it's a whole building. It's a whole building all the time.But anyway, whatever, they're up on the.

Trae

Roof, like three or four stories up, and some.

Maya

Some prom goers followed them out of the building, and they're starting to congregate down on the ground. Watching them up on the roof because they're dancing pretty close to the edge.

Patrick

Yeah, on the edge.

Micki

Oh, my God, there they are.

Jack

Oh, my God.

Patrick

Well, she got up on the ledge and he brought him up with her.

Maya

They're slow dancing and she's doing her, like, regular rapport. She's done with all the cursed men. Like, do you love me? Do you love me till the day you die?

Patrick

But she didn't know. She said the other one. She was like, I love you.

Maya

Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Patrick

Yeah, it was reversed.

Helen

Scott, do you know how much I've always wanted you?

Scott

No, not really, but it.

Helen

Every time you came to see my sister, I died a little bit inside and you ignored me.

Scott

I didn't mean to.

Scott

Look, what difference does it make?

Scott

We're here now.

Scott

We're together.

Helen

You don't have any idea what I've had to do to get you here.

Maya

It was.

Patrick

Yeah, I don't want to kill you. I don't want to have to kill you

Maya

I want to be. But it occurred to me that the only way I could have you was in death.

Helen

To hell with Joanne. She could never love you like I do. I don't want to lose you. I want you so much. But I know the only way I can have you is into death.

Micki

Helen, don't.

Joanne

Scott, no.

Helen

I love you.

Trae

She pushes them both off, which I totally did not expect.

Maya

I didn't expect it either. It was so sad.

Patrick

And again, thanks, Jack, for bringing the victim along with you. Poor Joanne. Along with you so she could witness.

Trae

This, her boyfriend and her sister dying. Yeah, and it was sad.

Patrick

Way to go, Jack. I was shocked. But again, here. What I was amused by. Production wise. Two things.First of all, they're on this roof, and clearly they're on a studio At a studio because there's this, like, city escape behind them. I'm going, where are you? That is not the exterior. That was.

Maya

That's right outside the high school they've been shooting at, obviously.

Patrick

But that's not there in the exterior shots. Nowhere. It's, like, really close buildings that are just not there. But that's nothing. Whatever. That's just me.But whenever they're shooting from the crowd's point of view, looking up, center of the screen, huge flapping American flag, The dancing couple.

Maya

Oh, Canada.

Patrick

Like you would think the dancing couple on the ledge would be center of the screen. But no, it's the flag. Here we are in America, and when.

Trae

They fall, they actually do a nice little slow motion and falling a good distance. I was like, okay, that's. That's good.

Maya

Yeah. No, they. They hired some stunt people. It was very upsetting.

Trae

Yeah. And then the episode's over.

Patrick

Almost.

Maya

Almost. Well, almost.

Patrick

Almost.

Maya

Micki is really upset, and Jack.

Patrick

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Jack has to go through Helen's purse first. He goes through Helen's purse and then.

Maya

Leaves with her purse on the roof. Going through her purse. Compact's not in there.

Patrick

And so he just took the purse.

Maya

That's not suspicious at all.

Patrick

It's now a crime scene. Jack, you just took somebody's kid's purse. He's like, I'm gonna keep this for my own stuff. This is. This is for Tuesday nights.

Trae

Oh, is it a trophy?

Maya

I think it's just accessorizing.

Patrick

Exactly. This will go great in the shop. This will be great to hold my wig, singular.

Maya

As if he only has one wig. So back on the ground, we. We have Micki. And she's so upset, and she's just, like, questioning the nature of why we have the show and going. Well, we.We couldn't save them. Like, what. What's the point? What do we do? And Jack just tries to comfort her. And it's sad and nice.

Micki

It's gotta be out there.

Jack

It's gotta be.

Micki

Well, then why can't we find it?

Jack

I don't know, Micki. Maybe someone else beat us to it.

Micki

No!

Jack

it's a possibility.

Micki

No, it's out there.

Jack

You know, Micki, no one ever guaranteed that we're always going to be successful. This time, we just failed.

Micki

Well, then all of it was for nothing. All those people that died. That boy in the basement.

Jack

Did you ever think we've been really lucky recovering all these things? The law of averages just caught up to us.

Micki

And Ryan,.

Jack

A little rest, and I think he'll recover.

Micki

I don't think I will. I just keep thinking of that thinking out there and more people are going to die because we didn't get it back, because we blew it.

Jack

We do what we can. It has to be enough. All these damned and cursed objects that can't be destroyed. So it'll turn up again. You'll get it.

Micki

What about all the people that are coming to die because we didn't?

Trae

It even says this is the law of averages. They caught up to us. We're not going to find every artifact. And I was like, wow. But then also, they gave up looking for that compact real quick.

Patrick

It's not in the purse. Oh, well, yeah, it's not in the purse.

Maya

I said they should have searched when the sun was out. Like they should have come back after everyone got some sleep for narrative sake. I understand why we didn't, but yeah, they.They didn't search very long or hard for that.

Patrick

I'm just going to say it wouldn't have been there anyway, anyway.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

Given the nature, it just wouldn't have been found. It wasn't. Didn't want to be found, but. Yeah. So they don't get the compact. They don't save anybody. It's a disaster. And Micki is. Tore the up about it.

Trae

And Jack has to come and she.

Patrick

Has a decent little scene. She has a decent little acting scene here. And so does Jack. Jack is. His explanation is as good as it can be.

Trae

Yeah. Like it happens. Gotta get used to it.

Maya

Yeah, it's. It was really upsetting. And she was very present in it. She had more chops than I gave her credit for.

Trae

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Patrick

And she also looked like a human being, so it wasn't distracting.

Maya

Yeah.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

She's dressed like a normal person.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

But generally upset. It was. I love this episode. It's a great little episode.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

And. And Maya.

Maya

Yes.

Patrick

The compact will be back. Oh, no.

Trae

Yep.

Patrick

So will Helen and so will Scott, but in different.

Maya

Really? Oh, no. Oh, I love when shows do that.

Trae

I don't know about that.

Jack

So.

Trae

So that's to look forward to.

Patrick

Oh, she's in three episodes, as a matter of fact.

Trae

Oh, sure. She's a good actress.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

I'm not sure if that counts. I'm not sure if that counts as, like flashbacks and.

Maya

Well, that's probably.

Patrick

Probably in flashbacks when the compact comes back.

Maya

One of my favorite parts of Deep.

Patrick

Space, which, by the way, is not.

Maya

A good episode, is tracking every character that the guy who plays Wayoon plays. I think he makes it up to across the different Star Trek shows, he makes it up to 10 different roles.

Patrick

Wow. Nice.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

There's a lot of prosthetics, but he's so good.

Patrick

I can't be mad that there's a guy on Buffy like that who I think played six roles over the seven seasons.

Trae

So. Yeah.

Patrick

So that is Vanity's mirror. I like this one. I do, too.

Maya

I liked it a lot.

Trae

Had a good villain. It moved fast, and it had a downbeat ending.

Maya

Well. And, like, the villain looked like a teenager, but also had, like, a sincere evil cackle. I loved her.

Patrick

Yeah.

Trae

And then sympathetic people who either die or get the boyfriend and sister kill.

Maya

Sympathetic people doing their best. I think, because we were making fun of earlier, the extras who don't go anywhere do anything.And I think they're really getting better at fleshing out the other characters.

Trae

Yeah,.

Patrick

I agree. Well, at least based on this episode, there's still some clunkers along the way. But like I said, things are tightening up.And I know there are a couple of episodes along the way that do go back and revisit themes that we've already seen, but do it better. Like the episode that David Cronenberg directed.

Maya

There's a Cronenberg episode and you didn't tell me?

Patrick

Yeah, David Cronenberg episode in this season, I think, where a cult faith healer. Where he's a faith healer and he's got a glove that can heal anybody, but you have to pass on whatever you healed to somebody else. But it's like.But it's like Dr. Jack. It's a better written version of Dr. Jack.

Maya

Sure.

Ryan

Good.

Patrick

And normally I would. I would. I would yell at a series for double dipping. But if you're gonna actually improve on what you did before it double dip, do it.

Trae

If you got Cronenburg to do it, then.

Patrick

Yeah.

Trae

Okay.

Patrick

Celebrity castings.

Trae

Oh, oh, okay. I got one. I got one. Okay. Go ahead, Maya.

Maya

Well, I was gonna say from a couple angles, Helen looked a lot like Kristen Shaw.

Patrick

I was gonna say that.

Trae

I was gonna say that.

Maya

So I want to see it. I want to see with Kristen Shaw going full like Louise from Bob's Burgers on it. Oh, that's ok. That's.

Trae

That's exactly what I was gonna say. Halfway girls like, wow. Wow. Kristen Shaw wavelength. And she kind of looked like her.

Maya

Yeah. From certain angles.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

I went with. I'm just gonna do a cameo. Not one of the major roles in the role of Sylvia. Amy Sedaris.

Trae

That would be so good.

Patrick

As Jerri Blank, of course. Do you Think I'm a fat dance? Go someplace a little more private.

Maya

Yeah, I'm here for that. That's great.

Trae

Well, actually, Amy Sedaris is. Helen. Amy Sedaris. Helen would have been funny.

Patrick

Amy Sedaris is anything.

Maya

Yes.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

She can do anything, which I think is great. And she's a chameleon.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

I don't have an alternate curse, but this was something that I thought of the second time through because I said, I love a good prom scene. And I love. When they open on that mirror ball to the music. It's like, oh, it's the perfect night. It's the greatest night of your life.And I was like, you going to end a disaster? I'm like. I was hoping, like, wouldn't it been cool?I wonder what would have happened if, when confronted Helen shone the light of the compact onto the mirror.

Maya

That mirror.

Trae

Oh, that would have been so cool.

Patrick

And all of a sudden, everybody in.

Trae

There is in love with Helen.

Maya

Oh.

Jack

Oh.

Patrick

Once in love with Helen, Always in love with Helen. Don't you make that face of me. Don't you make that face of me.

Maya

Helen's not Amy. Yeah, there's a Rick and Morty episode about that where it's not.It's not a light, but I think it's a virus or a pheromone where everyone at the high school, like, really wants to Morty. To the point of, like, murdering each other.

Trae

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Patrick

There's a Buffy one like that, too, with the love curse that goes wrong.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

On Xander. Yeah.

Maya

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Patrick

But I thought that would have been an interesting way to end that one.

Maya

That would have been very happy. I would have liked that.

Patrick

Yep. But I'm still very happy the way I'm not happy the way it turned out. It's a bit heartbreak the way it turns out. Poor Scott. Poor Joanne.They never get well. He's never getting over because he's dead. But poor Joanne, she gonna be in traction. She's back, too.

Trae

Oh, really? The actress of the character.

Patrick

I think she. I think she. I think she helps Hump hunt down the compact.

Trae

Okay.

Patrick

When it comes back.

Maya

Cool.

Patrick

Yeah. And she never did anything else.

Trae

She was good.

Maya

She was good.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

And, like, she looks like. She looks so familiar.

Maya

Maybe she just got one of those faces, though, because she's just very pretty.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

She was hot and blonde. Gosh, it's such a rare type.

Trae

Hard to find work. Yeah. Her and Scott.

Patrick

And by the way, I also love that they had no parents.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Yeah. I was I wasn't sure if that was on purpose. They just didn't want to hire actors to play the parents or if.

Patrick

I don't know, I. I mean, on part of me, I'm going. They don't have any parents. What parent would miss prom night? Your mom is going to be embarrassing taking a zillion pictures of you on prom night.But on the other hand, that's just more loose ends that we didn't need.

Maya

Yeah, you're right.

Trae

And if Helen was your kid, I'd be away from the house most often, too.

Maya

Fair enough.

Patrick

They hate each other.

Trae

Yeah. Oh,.

Patrick

Why did we create that?

Trae

Hello, older daughter. Hello, Helen.

Patrick

Could you not call his mother and father, please? Thank you. You can call us Jane. Actually, just call us long distance. Colin, we're sending you to boarding school. Just go away. Wash. Wash. Yeah.Heartbreaker episode. Yeah. And it is nice to see the good guys lose for a change.

Trae

Yeah. Like you said, they weren't in it a whole lot. It focused more on the new supporting characters, and I like that.

Maya

Me also.

Trae

Yeah. Yeah.

Patrick

But yet we still had Micki moments.

Maya

Yes, we did.

Patrick

Gorgeousness.

Trae

She looked amazing.

Patrick

She did. I'm like, why? Why?

Maya

I.

Patrick

It's really hard to make fun of you this. Hard for looking this great, but it's inappropriate.

Maya

Great. Yeah.

Patrick

It's distracting.

Trae

I want to know what the whole thing was like. Was it the costume designer, or was Robey the one making the suggestions? Where did this go?

Patrick

I'm guessing at this point. At this point, everybody knows that Robey's the money maker.

Trae

Yeah.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

Of the show. Given the audience of teen boys.

Maya

Yeah.

Patrick

For the show. That Robey, all of a sudden, like, I just let her do whatever she wants.

Trae

But the show would have been so much worse if she hadn't had that Robey style. I mean, that's such an integral part of the show.

Maya

Yeah. Then it would have just been another generic monster of the week movie.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

But alas, it's a monster of the week movie. Plus Robey.

Trae

Plus Robey. Which is. It's great.

Maya

It's not half bad.

Trae

Well, Jack and I had something, too.

Patrick

Oh, well, yeah.

Trae

Yeah.

Patrick

It's the whole bag. But, you know, Robey is. What? Who do we talk about the most? Who does everybody talk about the most?

Trae

Robbie's hair and Robbie's clothes.

Patrick

Robey's accent. Robi's everything. She's an obsession, you know? And she gets her kicks from the neck up.

Maya

Above the neck, above the neckline.

Patrick

Okay, so next time we will be doing Shadow Boxer.

Trae

Yeah.

Ryan

Okay.

Patrick

And it's probably going to be jarring going back in time, but it's my birthday. Deal with it. That's the. That's the. That's the downside of the curse.

Maya

I'll deal with it. It'll be fine. Let's go.

Patrick

Wrap it up. Thank you, Maya. Thank you, Trae for joining me. This has been fun. Thank you patrons for continuing to support the show.I hope you're enjoying all this. I want to say thank you you to Casey Loman from Evil Goods Design for our cool logo.Thank you to Sam Haynes for our theme song Sinister Dark Wave remix, which you can get over@bandcamp.com as well as all as all Sam's music. I want to say thank you to Trading and Maya Murphy, my fantastic co host.And I want to say thank you to all of you for joining us on this crazy journey. And hey, special thank you to all our Patreon friends who helped us get here.So since I can't think of anything else I could possibly say, I guess the store is closed until next month. Please find your way out. Please bring your items to the checkout counter because you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. Thanks though.So until next time, thank you everybody for joining me. Have a great rest of the month. And well, from everyone here at the Very Curious Curio Shop, we have got one thing to say. Damn you, Uncle Lewis.

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