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"DAMN YOU UNCLE LEWIS" will be taking a hiatus from our usual coverage of FRIDAY THE 13TH THE SERIES episodes until the show launches publicly this fall.
Until then, we've put together a series of FRIDAY THE 13TH THE SERIES SPECTACULAR episodes in which we celebrate some of our favorite F13 heavy-hitting writers, directors and stars by checking out their other work.
First up, HELLO MARY LOU-PROM NIGHT 2 directed by BRUCE PITTMAN (And Now the News, The Mephisto Ring) and starring WENDY LYONS (And Now the News) and LUCAS FERREIRA (Doorway to Hell, Wedding Bell Blues).
Mary Lou Maloney won Prom Queen in 1957.
She came back to slay the competition in 1987.
She's Trae and Patrick's favorite!
But can she survive the Wrath of Maya on her first time viewing?
Tell ya later, alligator!
HELLO MARY LOU PROM NIGHT TWO is currently streaming on TUBI, Peacock, and Prime.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:05 - Transitioning to a New Series
01:49 - Welcome to the Spectacular
11:11 - Mary Lou's Resurrection: The Confessional Scene
15:50 - The Locker Room Scene: A Turning Point
23:14 - The Evolution of Character Dynamics in Film
29:34 - Discussion of Movie Characters and Arcs
40:54 - Discussion of Character Development in Horror Films
43:57 - The Transition to New Topics
Patrick
This episode of Damn you, Wonka Lewis was Originally broadcast on July 11, 2025.It's part of our Friday the 13th the series spectacular episodes where we're bridging the gap between doing episodes on Friday the 13th the series and going public. We wanted to take a pause from doing that show for a while and released these to help fill in the gap.They are working in exactly the same way The Friday the 13th spectacular episodes did on ScreamQueenz for those who listen to that. And now both our patrons and our regular subscribers have something to listen to until dammy Wonka Lewis finally goes public. Now, here's the thing.It's taking longer than I thought it was going to. We're running to some problems, but we're working through them.Initially, I was very, very ambitious and thought I would get this thing out to you in October. Well, it's October right now and clearly it's not happening yet. However, the final date has been set.We will start releasing episodes of Damn you, Uncle Lewis going all the way Back to season one, episode one, starting on January 16, 2026. January 16, 2026. That's something to look forward to. Thank you so much for sticking around. Enjoy the show. Or should I say, enjoy the spectacular.Oh, hello. Come in, come in, come in. Do come in out of the terrible weather. Oh, welcome, welcome, welcome to my very curious curio shop.Although I hate to inform you the shop is closed for tonight because there's a. Well, it's a rather special evening. It's a monthly meeting of sorts. So unless you're here for the meeting, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.The nature of the meeting, you ask. Let me put it to you this. Sometimes Uncle Lewis does dreadful things.Welcome to Damn you, Uncle Lewis, the Friday the 13th the series retrospective podcast. Hello, everyone. Welcome, welcome back to my very curious, curious shop. I'm Patrick Walsh and I am your host. And guess what?If you come for an episode of Damn you, Uncle Lewis, well, you're shit out of luck because we're doing something special tonight. Now, if you're listening.If you're a longtime listener of ScreamQueenz, the podcast where Harginski, you'll know that there was a tradition over there that every time Friday the 13th rolled up on the calendar that we would do the next movie in the series. We talk about the next movie in the series. And this event became known as the Friday the 13th spectacular.And it didn't take long to run out of movies completely because ScreamQueenz ran much longer than Friday the 13th, the film series did. Then we ran out of movies. Then it was the question, what do I do with it? People love the Spectacular. How do I keep it going?So I just decided, well, what we're gonna do, every time Friday the 13th comes up on the calendar, we're gonna talk about a movie that's tangentially related to the Friday the 13, either by the same director or the same writer or the same special effects artist for that one. Some sort of connection that keeps the theme going. So we're gonna be doing that here.While Sc is signing off for good, we're gonna be taking a pause on talking about Friday the 13th, the series episodes. And instead, we'll be doing Friday the 13th, the series spectacular. And this time, ladies and gentlemen, it's not just any spectacular.We're throwing a prom welcome here.
Maya
You hear, you hear, you hear. You.
Patrick
Welcome to the first ever my curious, curious. Yep. Senior prom. All right, let's hear it for Mary Lou Maloney, the 1957 Hamilton High Prom queen.
Maya
********MOVIE TRAILER PLAYSNever mind the stupid ape, bone head. Just give me the crown.
Announcer
This year, someone special is coming back to Hamilton High for prom night. Mary Lou Maloney.
Patrick
Mary Lou.
Announcer
She's been dead for 30 years. Now she's going to use Vicki's body to get her crown back.
Patrick
Morning, prom queen.
Maya
Only nominated, not the winners. Not yet.
Announcer
Harry Luminally has come back.
Maya
Vicky. Wrong.
Patrick
You came with me.
Announcer
She will enter your body and possess you.
Maya
See you later, alligator.
Patrick
For revenge.
Maya
Another prom queen hopeful bites. The big woman. Cracking up. I don't know what's happening to me.
Patrick
She's dead. Dad, you know something about this, don't you?
Maya
Suck. No.
Patrick
See you later, alligator. She took the keys to my Cadillac car. They're playing her song.
Announcer
Hello, Mary Lou. Prom night two.*****END OF MOVIE TRAILER
Patrick
Now it is my delight to introduce to you my two favorite fellow wallflowers. We'll be here all night. We'll not be dancing. We'll be sitting in the bleaches making fun of all your outfits. Trade in at Maya Murphy.
Trae
Hey, Patrick.
Maya
This is my punch bowl, and I'm not sharing.
Patrick
Well, it's already been spiked.
Maya
Exactly.
Patrick
Spiked with vitamin B shots. Because it's 2025 and things are weird now. I don't know how it gets.
Maya
Things are weird now. The vibes are distinct, you know, Please.
Patrick
Like we're having a punch bowl. And this.
Maya
Please.
Patrick
But communal sources.
Trae
Blah, blah.
Maya
Now, let's go back to 1957. I imagine that's better.
Patrick
Why don't we go back to 1957? That's an excellent idea. Yeah. So the movie that we're talking about is hello, Mary lou, prom night two.Because it had not one, not two, but three Friday the 13th references, connections. First of all, both were directed by Bruce Pittman and both stars Wendy Lyons and also Lucas Ferreira, or back. Back, as he was known then. Josh Lucas.Before it was cool for him to be Portuguese because that's the way the film business works anyway, but. But it is now. And he's been super successful since he switched over, so good for him. Anyway, what am I talking about?
Maya
All right.
Patrick
So Trae and I were long time. We're longtime lovers of this film, but we've been one of the first times Trae was on screen Queens. We talked about.
Trae
Oh, yeah. I love this movie.
Patrick
Yeah. It never gets old. Never gets. What is it about hello, Mary Lou, Prom Night two that appeals to you so much? Why do you keep coming back to it?Why do you love it so much?
Trae
I watched again, it just. It takes so many different bits and pieces of all the movies, but it puts them together in a slasher format and then just.It's its own little weird hybrid of vibes. There's no other movie quite like it. It's a very visual movie. Great lines, really campy. It was written that the guy who wrote it is gay.
Patrick
Ron Oliver.
Trae
Yeah. Yeah.
Patrick
Hi, Friend of show, Ron Oliver.
Maya
Hi.
Trae
So it just has a great sense of humor about itself, but it also just feel. It's just a very visual movie. It looks great.
Patrick
Okay. Okay. Mine is similar. I love that it is. Again, that screenplay is so wonderfully. Even before I cluded how gay it was, it's gay without being gay.It's got gay sensibilities. Like you could put. You could put Divine in the role of Mary Lou.And it plays the same way or not, but it's got this wonderful gay comfortableness to it that makes magic. But on top of that, it's. They are throwing everything they've got at the screen. They like.They are being as imaginative as they can with this tiny little budget and they put the money in the right places. The cast is phenomenal.
Maya
I love.
Patrick
Everybody Came to Play. And it's a charming, charming little film. Even though it's got a bleak, awful Canadian ending. Because that's how they roll now. The whole thing was.
Trae
We've been.
Patrick
I realized Trae and I have been talking about this movie on the show in front of Maya for so long. Say, maya, gotta see it, Maya. Gotta see it, Maya. I've said, you know what? She's Gotta fucking hate this movie. Maya, how much did you hate this movie?How much did you hate this movie?
Maya
And Trae and I have disagreed on many things where neither of us is right or wrong. But, like, we've had this aesthetic schism for years.And listening to how much he loves this movie, I was like, oh, it's going to be a Trae movie and I'm not going to like it. And that's fine. And I'll finally understand it and I'll know Trae Louis little better having watched it. And I could not have been more wrong.I love this movie. This was great. I'm angry at everyone who has seen this, who didn't tell me about it. This movie was great. All of it was great. Every last element. The.The writing is gay and funny. And when they spend money on special effects, they're wonderful. And they're the visual storytelling, like Trae was saying.And then it plays with your expectations and subverts them. You think you know what's coming with a physical gag. You think they're gonna do some Final Destination stuff. And then they go, surprise.Totally different death. You thought you knew. It's so much fun. And then being the type of violent sci fi nerd I am, I, of course adore Starship Troopers.So when I turned it on and the first credit was Michael Ironsides.
Patrick
Yes. Canadian Treasure. Michael Ironside.
Maya
Canadian Treasure. They sucked his brain out. Ironside. I. Oh, I could not have been more sold on this film. Everyone should see it.
Patrick
Yeah. It's a delight. It's. It's a. The sequel. Not so much. Not a big fan of Part three.
Maya
That's a shame.
Patrick
Well, they didn't bring back. They didn't break Mary Lou. I'm like, where's Mary? With my Mary Lou? This girl, the girl who did it was fine. But it's not the same energy. It's not.She's not that.
Trae
No.
Maya
That energy. Yeah. I want to bottle that. The cold open. And I loved every minute of it with the lipstick. I love her and I.That she's an ungodly terror who doesn't have to be sexually abused to get there.
Trae
Yeah.
Maya
Like murdered. Whatever. It was an accidental murder. The number of movies I have sat through where I have watched so much violence happen.So woman can do a little murder. This movie was great.
Trae
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Maya
She.
Trae
But she's like the mean high school girl who goes psychotic, but she never loses that mean girl vibe, which I really enjoyed.
Maya
The mean girls I knew weren't having that much fun. Fun with it. They Also, like had this deep self hatred. Mary Lou, like, whatever. That doesn't affect me. Thanks for the jewelry. I'm going over here.I love her.
Patrick
1957 was not ready for Mary Louis. They set her on fire. It turns out 1986 wasn't ready for her either. The world still isn't ready for Marilyn. She doesn't give a. She just is about.She's in it for herself. She loves life. She loves. She's complete. What's. What's the word? I'm thinking people who love pleasure.
Trae
She's a hedonist.
Maya
She's a hedonist.
Patrick
Complete hedonist. And she's not ashamed of it. She's not ashamed of her body. She's not shaded for sexuality. She's like, I'll fuck with anyone I want. I'm not ashamed.The first scene, the first scene as a recovery Catholic, that first scene in the confession booth is gold. Maya, walk me through what happens. By the way, I was going to wear. I was going to wear for a good time called Mary Luther.
Maya
He's rubbing his nipples, listeners. He's pointing to his nipples and his fingers are moving in little circles. A woman in a headscarf is in a dramatically lit confessional.And it's doing that really sexy thing where the camera is focused on her face so you can see the screen and soft focus. And she's listing all of her sins. And the priest is going, oh, those are some serious sins. You're gonna have to atone pretty hard.She's like, I'm not done yet.
Patrick
Many boys.
Maya
Excuse me.
Trae
Many boys.
Maya
Many times. And I enjoyed all of it. And she writes for a good time. Call Mary Lou. And her phone number in lipstick inside the confessional.
Patrick
That is so bad. That's so baller on so many levels. The fact that you are writing your own phone number in the. In, in. On the wall is one thing.To be doing it in a confessional is amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing.
Maya
No notes.
Patrick
No notes.
Trae
Wap.
Patrick
Babaloo.
Maya
Baba Wap. Bamboo.
Trae
Bamboo. And she gives such a great performance in that scene. Just the lines.
Maya
Oh, yeah. Finding someone who can bring that vibe is hard. That is. That is masterful. That is. That is finding the right person. She eats this role.
Patrick
She absolutely. Even, even, even her headshot is prop. Eats this role.
Trae
Oh, yes.
Maya
Ding, ding, ding. Maya's favorite.
Patrick
Because I mean, granted, it's, it's, it's just a. It's a high school. Supposed to be a high school senior portrait. It's clearly a headshot, but it's also clearly 80s because she's wearing a vest.It's like a. It's a sleeveless shirt with a vest. It's clearly a denim thing, but I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.By the way, that phone number that you wrote.
Maya
Yeah?
Patrick
It's screenwriters. Ron Oliver's home phone number. He said nobody ever called.
Maya
Wow. Wow.
Patrick
I love this whole opening, too. I love how long we spend in 1957 before we go to the Maple. I love how comfortable we get.
Maya
I love that her original prom date is a teenager with a receding hairline. God bless us, everyone.
Patrick
I love the casting on young Michael Ironside. That's. He's a ringer.
Trae
Yeah.
Maya
Yeah, he looks like him.
Patrick
I. Two things I caught this time through in the opening. When she goes. When she dumps.When she dumps Buddy to go play with the other guy who becomes the priest. That's fucking around on that. That again in the theater department. Never fuck around the theater department. You'll get haunted.You'll stay there forever. But. But this fire painted all the wall behind them, so it's foreshadowing of what's coming. And we get it. And we get an America Town reference.
Maya
I caught it at the time, but I didn't take notes on this one.
Patrick
He's like, if you like buddies so much, what are you doing here with me? She's like, well, it's a big, free country. And he says, God bless America. And I was gonna say, it's a big, free country.Whichever one we happen to be in at the moment, nobody really knows.
Maya
Mary Lou's a big freak.
Patrick
Yeah, she's that big freak. God bless her. God bless her. God bless her. And the other thing, just going back to the whole. My favorite thing about it.Once I noticed it, Mary Lou, when she comes back from the dead, she's. It's not random, her coming back. She's summoned back because there's good things in life, especially dealing with. With.With evil prom girls and gay men. Don't touch our crowns. No touch. Okay. Never touch a woman's purse. Never touch a gay man's crown. Never do it. Never do it.It's like everything was fine until Jess broke that tiara. She would. She pulled the jewelry down. Fuck you. That was mine. That's my crown.
Maya
Literally. It's the rules we have from Friday the 13th. The object has to stay in the safe area.Apparently this one trunk in the theater department was enough to keep her contained. But then on a On a quest for a real blue dress. We. We unleash the horrors.
Patrick
Well, your green dress will be just fine.
Maya
I want a blue dress.
Patrick
Your green dress.
Maya
I'm gonna go shopping after school. I'll be back late.
Patrick
I co. Sign the checks because we live in an era where you could pay for things with checks.
Maya
Remember checks? What's I. I do. I have so many that I thought I was gonna need.
Patrick
It's a cereal rice.
Maya
Checks. We love overbearing Christian parents, but also they're fleshed out. Well, the dad is at least.
Patrick
And fleshed in.
Maya
Later. I'm obsessed with the actress playing Vicki. She does such a good job embodying both these women.
Trae
Yeah, she's so good.
Patrick
She gets put to the ringer. And she wears mom jeans that are insane.
Maya
She wears mom jeans. And when she walks around naked, I'm like, those jeans were not doing you any favor.
Trae
Oh, no. Yeah.
Patrick
You know what? Things I've learned about this new scene that. Okay, Trae, I haven't heard from you, but walk me through this.This locker room scene that we're about to talk about.
Trae
Oh, I love the locker room scene. Okay, so Vic Vicki's possessed by Mary Lou, and she's going to kill her best friend.So she's in the locker and they start making out in a very sensual scene that gets creepy.
Maya
Hold on. They are not making out. She gets in her personal space and like, kisses her forehead and kisses her cheek.
Patrick
You're right.
Trae
But it starts getting innocent and it starts getting more erotic on Vicky's part. And then it just.
Patrick
Aggressive.
Trae
Yeah, it's a very aggressive side. So I mean, aggressive. And so she starts chasing her friend through the locker room.Her friend is hiding in a locker, but Vicky is walking full nude, full beave out as a power move. Walking, stalking her through the locker room, taking her fingers, running them down the sides of the lockers and Freddy Krueger style.Yeah, yeah, but it's just this was. But the actress did it full nude and it's. Yeah, it's striking.
Maya
And we've established her as such. Well, the. The real Vicky is such a prude. And like, her boyfriend, who loves her, got her a cross necklace and she's. She's so chaste and modest.So like to just have this full self possessed of. I'm gonna find you.
Trae
Yeah.
Patrick
Two things. Things I've learned about that. Apparently going full nude was Wendy Lyon's idea.
Maya
Good for her. Good for her.
Patrick
The other thing I realized this time through, particularly now that it's in Blu Ray, that lighting is fluorescent lighting. There's not a shadow. There's nowhere to hide. There's no erotic lighting on her body. It's just glaring fucking nudity in your face. Like every.Every pimple, every. Every fold, every crease. There's nothing sexual about it. She looks stark and scary.
Maya
Yeah.
Patrick
And it's so. It's so brave. It's such a brave thing to do. And doing nudity is always hard, but nudity, when you know you're gonna look like.Like this is something else too. But it's bullpen.
Maya
I would say that was when we're stalking her friend. When her friend gets in the locker, I go, oh, we're gonna do the poster art. We're gonna set her on fire in the poster.And then just the lockers crush the fridge. What spoil spills out? Oh, and it's gnarly and it's upsetting and you barely even have time to react. And we move on. I love it.
Patrick
And I love that it's the punchline to a musical stinger.
Trae
Yes.
Maya
Yeah.
Patrick
When Mary Lou looks right down, the camera goes wop baba loop, bop, wop, smosh.
Trae
But the whole scene is what? It's like a mini movie. Because, like, the soundtrack to this is amazing. Because then it cuts.You have like this tonal sound through some of the real tent scenes. So it has like a little sting, a whop ba ba loop, a whop bam. And it crushes her. But then it cuts to the door slamming with an out of order.So it has that tone that gives it a downbeat vibe instead of an upbeat Freddy Krueger vi. And I appreciated that.
Patrick
I begged it. Therefore, I still think it's a great punt. Like, like, even. Even her.Like, flipping the sign that says says rest your metaphor, and then pop it a stick of gum.
Maya
Oh, yeah.
Patrick
But they don't.
Trae
But they kind of. With the sound and everything, they would give it kind of like a mournful tone a little bit.
Patrick
That was one of the things I was going to say. Like what?Since I want to talk about Bruce Pittman, like, the two episodes that he directed a Friday the 13th disease series were both favorites of ours, and they're hugely, totally different. It was. And now the news with the haunted radio and the Mephisto ring with the cursed gambling ring.And what I love about this, everything, like, everything in here is campy. Nothing's played for camp.
Trae
And they are.
Patrick
They are ripping off left and right from other movies. We've got the Exorcist in here. Exorcist in here. We've got Carrie. We've got Prom Night, obviously. We've got Nightmare on Elm Street. Lots of that.We've got all these influences and yet it never feels stolen. It feels like it's fresh in its own thing. And I think that's a huge thing.And even like I said, there's this gay campiness running through it, but nobody plays that. And I think it makes it so effective. It makes the jokes even better.
Maya
Yeah. It's not scary movie. It's played serious.
Trae
There's no winking at the audience.
Maya
Exactly. They're not.
Patrick
Except when there is. Which I think is great. But when she literally winks at the audience.
Maya
Yeah, except for when she literally winks at the audience.
Patrick
But Mary Lou can do that. Mary Lou's allowed. Mary Lou's loud.
Trae
Exactly.
Patrick
No, but Wendy lies it.
Maya
And Jack Torrance. End of list.
Patrick
And so I don't even have. I don't have like terrible. I don't have the woman who played Mary Lou's name in front of me. I just focused on what a performance.I love that she's able to like pop up like for like one second and just be terrifying without doing anything. Like I'm just thinking that one of the things I love about Wendy Lyons performance is her ability to like.Like she has those moments where she flips in and out of things.
Maya
Yeah. Really quick.
Patrick
Where she snaps.
Trae
Yes.
Patrick
And one of my favorite ones is when she's. She's in class and you know, Monica passed through the yearbook to look at it.Looks at Mary Lou Maloney and Mary Lou pops up in the, in the seat next to her where the bully was just sitting up.
Maya
Oh, the mean girl and the polka dot. Yeah.
Patrick
Where Kelly is sitting there. She just said what's the matter? What's the matter? Blanking everybody's name. What's the matter? Vicky?And then all of a sudden she's Mary Lou cracking up. Yeah.
Maya
Wildly funny, Wildly funny stuff.
Patrick
But the timing is all. Is all pristine. That's all. You know, between the script and the, the director they are, they are vibing.And the thing is too, that I want to bring up too is that this wasn't supposed to be a Prom night sequel. This was filmed as the Haunting of Hamilton High, which most people know.
Maya
And.
Patrick
They got bought out. They bought into this non existent franchise at the time. And I'm thinking it probably is a really good thing they did.I don't think they would have been able to afford the music rights to those 50 songs. And the movie is so much better with those 50 songs.
Maya
I was wondering about that because I was clocking how many expensive songs they were playing. And the rest of the movie didn't seem like it had the budget for that.
Patrick
Yeah, we don't have any 80s songs.
Maya
It adds so much, though.
Trae
Yeah, it does.
Patrick
It's a wonderful. Like. Like just when the locker room scene when I'm sick. Even when they're not using the 50 songs themselves. When you're hearing When Vicky. Barry Lou.Vicky is stalking Monica and she's rubbing her fingers and you're not seeing her. You can hear her singing something. And then as obviously you realize she's singing too de Fruity. Oh, Rudy.She's just singing the song was talking her best friend. And it's so wonderfully done. All of it's. All the music choices are brilliant. I love on.I don't think they would be able to afford a single one of them had they not sold out. So good for them. Because there's no reason for this movie to exist. There's no reason for this to be prominent. Oh, Trae, Trae, Trae.We're going to teach my something.
Maya
What? What? What things?
Patrick
What four. What things do all four prom night movies have in common?
Trae
There's. Okay, they have Brock Sampson, the actor. He's the nerdy guy with the potato in this one.
Patrick
The computer guy is in all four movies playing different characters. He always.
Maya
Respectfully, the actor is Brock Simpson. Brock Sampson is the character from the Venture Brothers.
Trae
Thank you. Thank you.
Patrick
Who is also played by Brock. No, Is that.
Trae
There's a line in all four movies. It's not who you go with. It's who takes you home.
Patrick
It's not who you come with. Yeah. And the location. Other than that, they don't have anything in common.
Maya
But.
Patrick
But I love that Brock pops up in all four completely different. Completely different characters and almost always dies.
Maya
Good for him. I loved him. And his failed potato.
Patrick
Oh, his outfit. Oh, my God. Actually, my vest is inspired by him because he wore that awful cowboy vest.
Maya
Okay.
Patrick
With horses on. I'm like, what are you wearing, honey? What are you wearing? What hit me this time through. Maya touched on it a bit.Is how much fun all of the adults are normally in a movie like this. In a high school movie, the adults are the dead weights. They're boring. Everybody's having so much fun.All these characters, every single one of them are so much fun.
Maya
A priest showing up to Michael Ironside's house to be like, the curse is back. She's back. She's possessed.
Patrick
Well, I particularly those two. I love Michael Einstein the Priest. And I don't have that actor's name in front of me either because I'm all for person.I loved it watching it this time, like, because I realized, wow, Richard Monette, that, that Mary Lou burning up at the prom. What you did at the prom was enough to scare you. That's some deep wounds. And he plays that beautifully too, throughout. I think it's great.And I love that even though they were mortal enemies, they have this weird bond and they care about each other. Like when Michael Iron cries. When he dies. Michael Ironsides crying.
Maya
Oh, yeah. He digs him up. And he's got the crucifix jammed in his mouth.
Trae
His mouth.
Patrick
No fucking wings. Oh, no fucking wings.
Maya
I die. I love it so much.
Patrick
I don't really. If I was.
Maya
If I.
Patrick
If I'm promised a pretty gown and a harp and wings, I expect that. Thank you. I was the pack. That's what I was told of these years. God damn it.
Maya
I want my goddamn in the movie. That might be the gayest line in the movie.
Patrick
No, my favorite line in the movie belongs to Wendy. Not when. Kelly. Kelly, the lady it's yours is the same dress that Liz Taylor wore to the Oscars. The lady at Sears says the same dress.
Maya
Okay, that's pretty good too.
Trae
At the Oscars.
Patrick
Here's the thing. I've been looking for the picture that actually is a dress that Liz Taylor wore the Oscars. That is that dress. It's the same dress.The polka dots, the fan of the shoulder. Kelly's wearing a low rent version of it. I. I love Kelly.The only thing, my only thing that I don't like about this movie is that Kelly's death is lame. But you know, when she gets stabbed with the neon thing, she died the most 80s way possible. That is an 80s way to die.
Trae
She did.
Patrick
I will commit to that for, you know, for the character. You want to see the character get it bad. And she didn't. Everybody else got much, much worse than she did. Other regrets is that I. I love.I. I love her parents. Just go back to the adults. I love her parents. I love her parents. I love the bunker. The green dress is just. The green dress is not fine.
Trae
Ma.
Maya
Up.
Patrick
You need to spend more time with the Lord. Suck a dick, Ma.
Trae
And the point.
Patrick
Deadly. Poor dad and Crazy Horsey. Crazy Horsey.
Maya
My God. Kelly was one of the main voice actors in the Care Bears.
Trae
Yeah, she's got. She was in cube zero or cube. Yeah, general.
Maya
46 episodes. Good God.
Patrick
Yeah. Most Canadians, they work a lot.
Trae
Well, like I said, the one thing. Watching it again, I realized this movie is shot beautifully. You could almost frame, like, stop at any point. The framing is great.The lighting, the way he. It's not a flat movie. It's always very dynamic. It doesn't feel just hastily thrown together.
Maya
You are so spot on that. The lighting, the use of fire, the every shot, like they. They don't have any money and they make it beautiful anyways, like those lighting.
Patrick
Things, the lighting effects with the. With the trunk in particular at the end are totally stupid. They should suck. They look great.
Maya
They look great.
Patrick
Craig's being sucked in the other direction. There's just that crazy, like, poltergeist lighting going on. It looks great. I also love that. Sorry. Mary Lou's real name, Lisa.
Maya
Oh, sorry.
Patrick
I love actually how both actresses are able to make those. Those 50s cliche lines. Threatening and scary. See you later, alligator.
Maya
Oh, we do a rule of threes on see you later, alligator. Yeah, yeah, they make you wait for that one. I love it.
Trae
Yeah, the blackboard scene, just that you don't have money, but you don't need it. I was.
Maya
I was screaming, crying, throwing up. That blackboard scene.
Trae
So good.
Patrick
What's happening in the blackboard scene?
Maya
Vicky gets sucked into a blackboard and it turns into this whirling pool of brackish water.And the letters that were on the blackboard are swirling around in there with her because she's been having these breaks where Mary Lou is, like, made these little hell portals in the high school and. And, like, they. They snap in and out. So all of a sudden she's alone in the classroom. And once she's alone, no one's observing her.All of a sudden, the entire room is now a threat. And when she finally gets back out of it, the letters are where they stopped in the whirlpool.
Patrick
Oh, she got. She don't get back out of it. She had sucked into it forever. She gets sucked into it.
Maya
Sorry, sorry.
Patrick
The continuity of the letters that were floating around the water, freezing on the blackboard was so nice. It's a nice.
Maya
She emerges out of something else later. That's what I meant.
Patrick
And you know that she's evil when she comes out of the trunk. You know how you know she's evil, Maya?
Maya
How?
Patrick
She has crimped hair.
Trae
Yes. Oh, I was gonna say she's always.
Patrick
Always a giveaway.
Maya
She's finally wearing mascara.
Trae
No, no, it's because she's evil Bernadette Peters. Ladies era. Bernadette Peters. Her hair.
Patrick
Yeah. Not her chest hair.
Trae
And then. Can I jump right into this?
Patrick
I was going. I was going separate. Did you hear about Bernadette, Peter's comment on. Yeah. On Calla Scola's dress?
Maya
No.
Patrick
She said, oh, I thought it was a wonderful Cher beard, except I wore my chest hair swirling in the other direction when I wore the dress.
Maya
Bless her.
Trae
Good for him. Or them.
Patrick
Them. Yeah. This is why we love her. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. I did, though.
Trae
But also this scene with Jess where her friend Jess confesses that she's now pregnant. And the whole shot is just a one long, slow zoom in as they just talk. And the movie's like, let's just let them be actors and act.And you're just watching them.
Maya
That scene is heartbreaking, and it's so real. None of it's played for laughs. We're not slut shaming anyone. Of course the slut is the first one to die because it's a horror movie. Yeah.
Patrick
No, it wasn't because she was a slut, though. Because she broke my tiara. Everything was fine. Up until then. I was happy both. Mary Lou was happy in her trunk.There was no supernatural things going on before that moment. None.
Maya
I love the fake.
Patrick
Forgot the cape, bonehead. Just give me the crown.
Maya
That was. I loved that. I loved watching the art room go to kill Jess. And soon as I saw the paper cutter, I was like, oh, we're doing Final Destination stuff.I love a Rube Goldberg machine that leads us up to a grizzly murder and then. And then just yanked right up to the ceiling instead. You don't know what's coming you. I do it the way I want.
Patrick
No, because Mary Lou's like, wait, that's my cape. She's gonna bleed on my cape. No.
Trae
Nope.
Patrick
No. Out the window.
Maya
Oh, wait.
Patrick
And then she's hung and her neck is broken. Is clearly dead. It's like 30 seconds later. Then she gets throw out the window. Mary's like, you know what?
Maya
You. You. I won't. You done with this now?
Patrick
But I love that. Had no empathy for jazz at all. Like, normally, you'd be like, oh, no. No empathy. No.
Maya
Oh, yeah. When I check on Vicki later, and they're like, why are you still sad?
Patrick
I meant the movie. Like, in an American movie. Like, oh, she would have been the main lead character. She would. The best friend who dies last or something. She had an arc.Like, your arc. I'm the Sol. But Yeah, so. Well, if you don't remember Wendy Lyons, like, she was in. She only had one scene and. And now the news.
Maya
Bedazzled jacket, right?
Patrick
No, no, she was a prisoner in the asylum.
Maya
Prisoner. What am I remembering?
Patrick
It was The Haunted Radio 1 where the prisoners would be in the asylum, were being killed by the worst phobias by. By Stone Cold Effie Stokes return. And she was the one that got it with snakes.
Maya
Yeah, that was awful.
Patrick
Yeah, that was awful. And we were all talking like she cranked it to 11 and held it for that whole scene.
Maya
Sorry, I'm thinking about one of Ryan's old girlfriends. Yeah, wrong episode. My bad.
Patrick
Fair enough. Fair enough. We've had lots of them. No, she did.
Maya
She.
Patrick
She was crazy, but she wasn't that crazy to Ryan died.
Maya
Anyways.
Patrick
Anyway. Yeah, but no, but yeah. And she brings all that here. Like she's. She is. I just love how seriously she's taken.And I just wanted to talk about the other guy, Louis Ferreira, who plays Craig, who's charming. Who's charming.He got knocked out 85 times in his episode too, which was the doorway to hell, which was with the haunted house one with the mirrors and Uncle Lewis.
Maya
Ah.
Patrick
Jack's boyfriend Rashid. Rashid was Rashid's big episode.
Maya
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Patrick
And he was. He was the one that Uncle Lewis kept possessing through the mirror.
Maya
Oh, okay.
Patrick
Yeah, he was the. Yeah, yeah.
Trae
That actor's so cute.
Patrick
He's very cute. He's had a huge career. He's had a huge career in Stargate. So he's. He's been doing great and they have great chemistry together.I think they're adorable together. They're like. They're been a high school couple that you're like. When they get together, like, yeah, they're gonna make it.
Maya
Yeah, yeah.
Patrick
This. This is right. Because you can tell your friends first and then you're dating. I love everything that's going on with both. I think they're great.I think they're adorable.
Maya
Oh, he is still working all the time.
Patrick
Oh, yeah.
Maya
He was a Breaking Bad.
Patrick
Yeah.
Maya
Westworld.
Trae
Yeah.
Patrick
This is like.
Maya
This is only his third shogun. Good for him.
Patrick
This is only a second or third project that he worked on. But yeah, he's doing great work. And he'll be back on Friday the 13th. Be back in Wedding Bell Blues, which is not the one we're doing next time.It's another wedding episode.
Maya
Oh, okay.
Patrick
You think the wedding were a source of trauma or something. But.
Maya
There is only one human heart.
Patrick
At mine Jeannie's packing up Jeannie's moving out Packing out Pack all her clothes tonight Away she goes.
Maya
I'm sorry. I'm an alto, so I don't remember what the melody of that is, because it was my job to go. Just repeat the first two lines underneath it as rhythm.
Patrick
Oh, this is somewhat related now.Here in New York, there's this revival, semi revival redo of Pirates of Benzant's playing with Jinx Monsoon in it, which, of course, you know, the pirate movie version. It's basically the exact same story, but Jinx Monsoon is playing the.
Maya
Ruth, Frederick's.
Patrick
Nanny, the pirate king's lady sidekick who starts all the trouble, the horny old woman who's on the. But okay, 47.
Maya
47 is not that old.
Patrick
I'm just saying. But I'm just saying, in the, in the, in the story, she's supposed to be the hag of the story. Like, there's a whole scene where he.Where Frederick, finally, when she's betrothing herself to Frederick, she's like, yes, you be mine and I'll be whatever. Yes, yes. Remember, Ruth renewals before you, all that stuff. But. And he sees the girls and she's, oh, my gosh. That's what beautiful women look like.How dare you, Ruth? And he's throwing. He's yelling at Jinx Monsoon, and he's like, get away from me, you horrible, ugly beast. And I just wanted to be like.And play and play and play, too.
Maya
I have seen and been in so many productions of Pirates. And watching Jinx Monsoon was the first time I saw anyone make sense of the line. Remember, Ruth?
Trae
I bet that was amazing. I love Jinx. I'm glad she's getting this whole career on Broadway.
Maya
Oh, me too. I'm so happy for her.
Patrick
I don't want to go down this route because we're still doing a show here, but I, I, I, I didn't. Didn't love the production. It was very roundabout.
Maya
Okay, you, you go home, Patrick.
Patrick
I didn't like him.
Maya
No, I meant for the roundabout joke, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Patrick
It was very. Did roundabout things always, like, have great ideas, but they never really follow through on them.
Maya
Like, I went in with.
Patrick
I get, I get you got Jinx Monsoon playing a fabulous drag queen playing Ruth, but I think she needed to be dumpier in act one to be.
Maya
Yeah, I didn't understand why we didn't do a sexy costume change in Act 2. That didn't make any sense to me.
Patrick
Because I didn't, I didn't Know why? What's the problem? Like, she's a. Like, as we're seeing, Ruth is a gorgeous woman. Why are we playing pretending that she's ugly?
Maya
Yeah. Why are we playing that? For laughs.
Trae
Yeah.
Maya
I think I went in expecting them to ruin it and make fun of the source material for being stodgy. So when they didn't do that, my expectations were already surpassed. And then nuggets of it were so great that I was never.
Patrick
Say nuggets to me. Nuggets is one of those words I hate. That's my moist. Nuggets are my moist. I hate that word so much.
Maya
All right, then there were parts of the show that I thought were very funny and successful.
Patrick
Wendy's have been selling saucy nugs. And every time I see the animation. Okay, all right, back. Back to the movie. Is there anything else we want to talk about?
Trae
Oof. I'm going to talk for an hour about it. Just pick it apart. But no, not really.
Maya
No. I love the ending. I love the ending because I feel like we're pulling the punch on Michael Ironside for the entire movie.And then finally we get that devilish grin at the end and, hey, what a twist. And then like, like credits.
Patrick
I caught something this time through what? You catch that early on, one of the scenes with the priest and him that are like, dude, normally when I zone out a bit because it's not fun as fun.It's not as fun as teenagers. But I was more focused in this time. The priest says, she's going to possess. She's come back. She's going to possess you because you killed her.The priest was right. And that's exactly what happened.
Maya
That's exactly what happened. He called it out and he go, well, well, she can't possess me because I'm a priest, so he cannot possess.
Patrick
Me because she cannot possess me. He had an accordion, too. Sorry, I'm Judy Tenuta now.
Trae
Well, there was like. Well, just the idea of her going for his son.There's a scene where Mary Lou goes after the son and then the father has a nightmare of, like, pulling out, like a dark night, like the back seat of a car lit up. And his son's shirtless, screaming. And Mary Lou's kind of shirtless behind him, like, laughing evilly. And just the father.And then Mary Lou later telling the father, Craig is so cool. What was he going to be?
Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trae
Going after him after his son was just cold blooded.
Patrick
Oh, no, no. Trae, since you brought this up. Yeah. You had a problem with the movie. Last time we talked about it back in. I don't know when the. That was.Whatever goddamn year it was back in the odd odds.
Trae
What was. What was it?
Patrick
You had a problem when she called him a. When she called Craig a. What? You turned on me.
Maya
Oh, yeah.
Trae
Now it's part of the time.
Maya
You know, when we remake the movie, we'll fix the line just like Sondheim did.
Patrick
Well, I don't know. She's from 1959 for 1957.
Maya
1957. It's 1986. That slur is also in Heather's. And I'm gonna keep rewatching Heather's forever.
Trae
Yeah, well, the character would say something like that.
Maya
Yeah, but if I'm making it now, I can coddle myself a little so I don't have to like have a knee jerk reaction.
Patrick
You'd have a whole 4chan page dedicated to you.
Maya
Yeah, actually.
Patrick
No, seriously.
Maya
If I made it onto 4chan when I was on Fox News. Thanks for putting that idea in my head. Let's all go. Not look.
Patrick
Let's not go look. Let's not. Let's put her on there now. Let's bring up the whole.
Maya
Let's think. Let's not.
Patrick
Let's let it die. Let's please not. Please know. That brought me down too. Thank you very much. Way to go, Maya.
Maya
Unlike Mary Lou. Let's let it die.
Patrick
Let's let it die. No, she's. She's fabulous. I love her. I also. What? This is just dumb. This is the thing I noticed too. This.I love that it's in that era of the 80s where everybody just wore big things. Things. Everything was big.
Maya
The hair is big. The bows are big. The ruffles are big. I love chunky.
Patrick
Monica is a beautiful young woman. And that like floor length blue dress. I'm like, what prairie did you crawl off on? Monica, what are you doing?
Maya
I love when justice for Monica.
Patrick
I love. Oh, sorry. Go.
Maya
I'm sorry. I was gonna say when Vicky first gets possessed, the way she inspects her new body, like, oh, this will do. I can dance. I can. This is great.
Patrick
Like, like, not as good as my old one.
Maya
Not as good as my old one. But you can. Like just. The assessment was so. It was so funny. I loved it.
Patrick
Oh. One of the things that I think is. Is notable is that this deport where Josh. Is that his name? Josh?
Trae
I think so.
Patrick
Yeah. The computer saying that she's keeps saying that she's possessed. Like, oh, yeah. Oh, she's got the head Spanning Linda Blairsville.This is one of the first time horror movies got meta. One of the first times that happened. Yeah, I don't know if it's the first, but it's very early on.I remember the time being shocked that they're bringing up another movie.
Maya
I was surprised at that too.
Trae
I remember reading a thing, an article about it, where it mentioned that line too.
Patrick
Also, no, normally I hate, I hate the relates. Like normally in these movies the teens are disposable. I actually really, I really hated Josh.
Trae
Me too.
Patrick
Beginning. And it's mostly because that potato thing, the whole potato thing, I don't like it, but I love it again now. And here's why.This is what I caught doing. The potato thing is not what I was going to start with. Where's the potato? What are you saying?This, this is a moment that will be inserted into the anals of history. And you all know how painful that could be.When he says anals, we cut to the one punk kid in the class with like the denim vest and like all the pet piercings. I'm like, why did they cut to him? We've never got to him when they said anals.
Maya
Outed.
Patrick
We're talking about yours, Chuck. We're talking about your anals right now. We're gonna put it in your anal, Chuck. But I love it.
Maya
I love the potato moment though because it just reminded schmucks I went to high school with being like, this is technically kind of the assignment and I'm gonna show off to the teacher and like, I don't know, I, I loved it. Loved all of it.
Patrick
Yeah. Also this, this. One of the things I don't like about the movie is that all the characters last names are hard movie directors.And it's that got real tired real fast. Like every movie did that for a while, but I'll let it go.But I do love that even though I started hating Josh, I love the relationship with Josh and Monica.
Maya
Yeah, Yeah.
Trae
I like Monica a lot too. She was, she made the most of everything she was in.
Maya
Yeah, I, I, I don't know.I think this is a newer convention where they make teenagers and slashers too clean, too sympathetic because teenagers are messy and full of hormones and doing stupid stuff.
Patrick
Yeah.
Maya
And not just like set off the plot point, evil stuff, but just like stupid stuff. And this, they were all complex and, and dumb in their own ways.
Patrick
Even Monica had that moment when she's like, I don't know why boys would talk to me off what you.
Maya
We all know why. Boys want to talk to you.
Patrick
But. But, yeah, I felt bad that, like, when Josh shows up at the problem with his special mon. Little corsage for. I'm like, she's not coming, honey.No, man, she's not coming. It was sad.Also, I just realized, Maya, the guy who's announcing the pro, the winner at the end, announcing Vicki is the winner is Stan, the sister's perfect boyfriend from pen.
Maya
We.
Patrick
Stan. Stan. He's in this movie with a mullet.
Maya
You know, it was a rough. It was a rough era for hair.
Patrick
He looks great at it. Because he's Stan. He can do no run.
Maya
Yeah, no, he's just. He's just a good guy.
Patrick
Hey, Kelly, how'd you blow it with my mouth?
Maya
Oh, you want some gummy? Your breath is great.
Trae
See, that's why I didn't like Josh, because that was sort of making him a, you know, predator. But, yeah, that was still.
Maya
She came in predatoring already, though.
Patrick
Yeah, he. He negotiated.
Maya
She came in with.
Patrick
She came in. She came in with the break in the law bid. He's like, okay, but that $100 isn't going to do it. You know, she could have said no.
Maya
She came. She was ready, and then she accepted the terms and spoke how she thought the deal was going to go. I. Is it a little icky? Yes.See the Predator in that situation. They're both terrible.
Patrick
They're both terrible. Yeah, they're both there and they're both dead. So it's okay. The problem's been. So once again, the problem's been solved.Thanks, Mary Lou, problem solver. Did you also catch that when. When. When he puts in Kelly. I mean, Vicky as the winner, when he gets killed and. And Marilyn catches him, that.The printouts are like. The parent on the screen's like, nope, wrong.
Maya
Dead wrong.
Trae
Wrong.
Patrick
And then it's a story with two O's. I was like, did you see that?
Maya
I did not see that.
Patrick
It didn't happen. But in my version.
Trae
Oh, in your head.
Maya
In your head, Cannon. It said, sorry because we're in America town in Canada.
Patrick
Sorry.
Trae
And I love how, like, Mary Lou's magic is that she's just enjoying the prom. He's about to change it. She gets, like, this psychic notion. She just reaches over to an outlet, grabs it, zaps him, and then just. Okay.Goes back to promote.
Patrick
She has indeterminate powers. That. I don't care. Please continue.
Maya
That's the whole high school. It's her high school. I. Those. That was my headcanon is especially like Vicki didn't break the crown. That's not her fault. Why is Vicki gonna suffer?
Patrick
Like, because it'll hurt. It'll hurt Craig, which will hurt Buddy. It all comes back to Buddy.
Maya
I think. I think the whole high school grounds.
Patrick
And they all just suck. You all just suck. All you people suck. I'm gonna.
Maya
Everyone who sucks should die.
Patrick
I'm sorry. Sorry, Monica. You criticize my clothes. You keep talking to me when I'm with Craig, who's my man. So scram. You won't scram. I say swell. Thank you.Nobody says swell anymore. Another great line. Monica was too good a friend. She had to go.
Trae
Yep.
Patrick
I love when the mom gets blown to the window. That makes me really happy.
Maya
Yeah, that was nice. That was a little too cathartic there, huh?
Patrick
Yeah, yeah, it's a great little movie. Anyway, I don't have anything else to say. I think it's great. Bruce Prittman, Wendy Lyons, Lucas Ferreira. Well done. Well done. It's a gem of a little.And Ron Oliver since I know he's probably might be out there listening. Hi, Ron. We love Ron.
Maya
And thanks for both of you for finally getting me to watch this.
Trae
I'm so happy you liked it.
Maya
It's a treat. I'm going to come back to it. I watched it on tv so I'm excited to watch it. Get in high res and see what else I get.
Patrick
The blu ray is $60.
Trae
Well, yeah, it hasn't really been officially released on. On Blu Rays like on DVD a while back. So it's really a good version of. It's not that easy to find.
Maya
All right.
Patrick
Heard I. I got it done on. Shutter is fine. It's an 80s.
Trae
Okay, never mind.
Patrick
I don't know how it was. It's not anywhere it's on Amazon now, but. Okay, I own it.
Maya
All right.
Patrick
But it's one of those. I don't like 80s movies to be that high dev anyway because the makeup falls apart. What was I going to say? I want to.To figure out what we're going to do for the next thing, which I did. And I forgot the director's name, so give me a second. And. And Trae, I'm going to need your input on this one because we have to make a decision here.One of the most prolific directors that we keep coming across on Friday the 13th of the series, I think he directed possibly 15, 16 episodes. Some who haven't seen it is William Fruit. He directed the.The pilot and many of the ones that have been one of the many of the highlight episodes that we talked. One of our. Many of our favorites. So, Trae, should we watch Funeral Home with Leslie Donaldson, who's another Friday the 13th connection?
Maya
We're always talking about Degrees of Leslie.
Patrick
Donaldson or Killer Party.
Trae
Oh, Killer Party's fun. I don't remember Funeral Home that well, but I remember Killer Party and it's a lot of fun.
Maya
But if we watch Funeral Home, then Patrick and I can sing Fun Home the whole time.
Patrick
We can do that. Also, I don't think Killer Parties are available, but we will have to, you know. Hey, listeners. Listeners. Oh, yes, listeners. Why don't you tell us.You tell us which movie you want us to talk about. I love Funeral Home, but it's goofy and kind of weird and not a great movie. And I don't know how it got nominated for Gemini Awards, but it did.But it figures. It figures. It's one of the seminal films. And I said seminal. Of this director, one of his most favorite films. And it's got our girl, Leslie Donaldson.And Killer Party is one of the most bizarre, charming Canadian slasher movies you could possibly imagine. It's like. It's like Mary Lou, but on crack. Mary Lou did all the cocaine you'd get. Killer Party still charming and cute and gay.
Trae
Vivia.
Patrick
Because it's got what it's got what's his name in it. The other half of Mary Warrenoff and Paul Bartel. Paul Bartel. Yeah. So listeners will leave it up to you. So write it and let us know.So until next time, I think that's it. So, like I said, thank you for sticking in this.Thank this weird transitional period where we hope to keep you entertained through the summer until October, which is when hopefully, Damian Lewis will return in its full form. And until then, stay safe, stay healthy and. Oh, my God, I can't believe. Even though it's the problem, one thing left to say. Damn you, Sam.
Trae knows way too much about 80s slashers for his own good.